BET show "Beef"

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[orestes]

1. ja rule is a no talent fag
2. 50 is a little-to-no-talent fag
3. you are fucking stupid if you think only rappers, or even only black people cook, grow, manufacture, import, etc. and sell drugs. they just glorify it. they are not to blame for the problem. its a cycle that no ethnicity in poor urban areas is going to get out of anytime soon.
4. i agree with you, rap videos are weak as fuck most of the time. but then again most of the songs that have a video i think are weak as fuck. to quote E-40 "I dont bump mainstream, I knock underground/ all that other shit sugar coated and watered down"
5. and we have lost many many many talents since biggie and tupac due to beef. hitman, mr. cee, rappin ron, king freako, mac dre, fat tone (even tho i thought he was garbage), the guy from Run DMC, shit many others
6. Did they have any of Yukmouth's varoius beefs in there? he always has something going on...

[driftinggrifter2]

The rappers with the videos of the babes and houses and bling or whatever actually started because of B.I.G he brought a diffrent outlook to rap and how it is perceived thats why he is one of the pioneers of what we have. Don't blame the rappers for what you see on tv looks and reps sell. The music industry will always go where the money is. Actually while there is still a bit of gangsta rap around there is other rap that is all about having fun,partys and whatever else Ying Yang Twins and Nelly prime examples. Though I do see your point that your making It is a valid one.
P.S. 50 is weak and Ja Rule should of never tried the whole singing and rapping thing(whether he like it or not he is not 2-pac)

[sv650s]

Originally Posted by orestes

1. ja rule is a no talent fag
2. 50 is a little-to-no-talent fag

they've got talent, they're just supposed to be in some kind of retarded group of rappers

Originally Posted by orestes

3. you are fucking stupid if you think only rappers, or even only black people cook, grow, manufacture, import, etc. and sell drugs. they just glorify it. they are not to blame for the problem. its a cycle that no ethnicity in poor urban areas is going to get out of anytime soon.

i hate that, black people are stereotyped with that shit all the time. like someone thinking he's gangsta because he's black and i'm thinking aren't you the kid from the suburbs? living in the hood isn't cool, it's painful!

Originally Posted by orestes

4. i agree with you, rap videos are weak as fuck most of the time. but then again most of the songs that have a video i think are weak as fuck. to quote E-40 "I dont bump mainstream, I knock underground/ all that other shit sugar coated and watered down"

most of them are just chicks half naked, that's why i love rap videos.

Originally Posted by orestes

5. and we have lost many many many talents since biggie and tupac due to beef. hitman, mr. cee, rappin ron, king freako, mac dre, fat tone (even tho i thought he was garbage), the guy from Run DMC, shit many others
6. Did they have any of Yukmouth's varoius beefs in there? he always has something going on...

the name is jam master jay and that really pissed me off cos run dmc had nothing with crime or drugs or anything like that, they didn't try to act gangsta or anythign like that. they just made good music.

[driftinggrifter2]

Originally Posted by sv650s

the name is jam master jay and that really pissed me off cos run dmc had nothing with crime or drugs or anything like that, they didn't try to act gangsta or anythign like that. they just made good music.

I still have some of their tapes. I thought it was a sad day when i found out jay died.
I like alot of rap as it is (except masterp) but the videos.... well what else can i say they get girls in those videos that i drool over
I hate when people stick with one genre of music the hate/stereotype the rest. give credit where credit is due they got to the top by doing what they do best and most of them really only rap about what really goes on in the streets almost like the news only with a catchy beat and hook that could kill.

[orestes]

yeah i mean theres nothing wrong with the form of those videos, just if they could not all follow the same damn formula lol.

[TexasF355F1]

I'm guessing the episode is actually 4 hours. I caught what was titled "The Conclusion". Beef is stupid in general, but I do remember being younger and listening to Pac always siding with him b/c i just liked his music more. I think that and where you're from has something to do with it to.

About Flip vs T.I.'s beef. It seems all of that started as a big misunderstanding and just escalated from there. I'll admit that Flips Leprachaun album cover is "gay". But hell from a sales and promotion point of view it's gonna draw attention, b/c a bright colored album and a guy dressed goofy is funny. That album is quite old now, but it's still very good. I believe it's vastly produced with freestyles instead of written lyrics.

I find it hard to believe that Scarface has no idea who he is, but yet knows two people in his crew. Not to mention they grew up on the southside of houston. Not to mention how tightly knit everyone here is with one another. I'm gonna side with flip not only b/c he's from houston, but b/c i think his lyrical talent is better.

T.I. should have known better than to go looking for Flip to see if he really "hangs" in Cloverland. That's just plain stupid on his part. You would figure a so-called thug would know that. Unless you know the area and people there, don't go. If you go to certain parts of Houston, and you don't look like you belong there or even look like you're from Houston you'll run into problems. T.I.'s really lucky he just got jumped and that's it. I'm surprised nothing else.

All these guys need to use their heads, but we all know that never works. I think if Flip and T.I. and all the others beefing could at least agree to end it and later compile an album they would see double as much.

[orestes]

yeah what i have heard suggested before is, and it could be two rappers or two camps, just each put together like 6 or 7 Diss songs against each other and then make a full length album out of it and split the profits.

[vinnym86]

imo, and i'm probably wrong, but this whole beef thing is just a facade most of the time. Rap is like WWE wrestling, a big soap opera. This beef shit is just side entertainment. lucrative entertainment.

edit: MOST of the time. obviously can't say the same about biggie, pac, jam master j, etc. yes, we have lost many a good talent. Biggie being my favorite rapper of all time.

[orestes]

at least some of it is real i know, there was going to be a Spider Loc show in Oakland last week or so but that got cancelled because G-G-G-G-Gay Unit is too scared to come to the Town. the biggest factor in that is the ongoing beef between Yukmouth and Spider.

And most of the Bay rappers that were beefin with Game have squashed that, Game gave some shouts on the radio or something to get them off his back, that was all caused by (at least as far as i understand it) Game getting brought up by a bunch of people around here, given his first studio time, etc, and then he gave no recognition.

so on going beef i know of
1. Yukmouth and damn near 25% of the planet.
2. a bunch of people and Gay Unit
3. A-Wax vs. Husalah and Ap-9. This is fairly recent. AP and Hus are in the same rap group (Mob Figaz), and they used to be cool with A-Wax, they from pretty much the same area. But A-Wax has been after Hus after bein a snitch supposedly, and recently Wax dropped AP-9's daughters name on a diss song (or something.. i havent heard it) and now Ap is fuckin AFTER HIM like no other. check this album AP is selling on his myspace for like 8 bucks or something.


dirrrty!

[driftinggrifter2]

Alot of beef between rappers is real. Back when No Limit was in its prime we had some rap group coming down to The State Palace Theatre in N.O. for a show. They ended up running their mouths about MasterP and Mystikal a week before the show. At the show their ended being all kinds of probs for them cuz well N.O. was P's town. gun shots and all kinds of fights broke out over that the show only lasted 20 mins before they had to hut it down.

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by driftinggrifter2

Alot of beef between rappers is real. Back when No Limit was in its prime we had some rap group coming down to The State Palace Theatre in N.O. for a show. They ended up running their mouths about MasterP and Mystikal a week before the show. At the show their ended being all kinds of probs for them cuz well N.O. was P's town. gun shots and all kinds of fights broke out over that the show only lasted 20 mins before they had to hut it down.

The NO is full of worthless shits. Our crime has sky rocketed since they've come here. I don't even feel safe at my house anymore and it's in a nicer area.

[driftinggrifter2]

Only the ones from the slums are worthless and those are the ones that you got feel free to shot em all if ya want. But contrary to your statement N.O. wasn't filled with worthless shits that just all you saw on tv and all its none for due to bourban st. and what the news protrayed of em.

[driftinggrifter2]

Me personaly not from there and i couldn't live in that city just go and party there on the weakends

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by driftinggrifter2

Only the ones from the slums are worthless and those are the ones that you got feel free to shot em all if ya want. But contrary to your statement N.O. wasn't filled with worthless shits that just all you saw on tv and all its none for due to bourban st. and what the news protrayed of em.

Oh I'm not saying all of them. From what I understand their causing problems in the other cities as well. Supposedly one of the problems are two gangs carried their feud here.