motip primer.

[wouter1981]

Has anybody experience with the motip primers? I'm searching for a cheaper substite for the tamiya primer. They have a plastic primer wich i don't like.. It's transparant so you can't see how much you sprayed on it.. i don't know of the other primers.

Thanx in advance

[klutz_100]

I've been using Motip primers a lot recently (for the same reason as you) and until yesterday my experience has been universally good. However, I do use Tamiya primer for bodies and Motip for the rest of the kit.

My only bad experience (yesterday) was on an old Fujimi kit (Dino 246GT). I masked off some interior pieces as usual (Tamiya tape and BMF for very small, intricate places), but when I removed the masking tape, it pulled off the paint and primer as well in some places (some big).

I'm pretty sure that everything was suitably dried. It rather looks as if for some reason the primer didn't key into the plastic which was well washed and rinsed beforehand.

For the moment, my assumption is that Motip primer might not "like" old Fujimi plastic. I know that it "likes" old and new Tamiya plastic and old Revell plastic.

IMHO you can use it quite happily.

HTH

[bigfrit]

I use it on bodies too, sometimes Tamiya, sometimes motip, depending on what I have handy.

I must say they re both good for the job, although I prefer to lightly rub some 600 grit paper before applying primer, anyways, so that you don't get that possibility to ripping off the paint and the primer.

I must say that the motip ones are quite up to par for the use I have for it, especially I like the red primer, which gives a nice effect under tamiya red paint.

Olivier

[wouter1981]

mmm so the motip primer is good enough for most models i guess. I always sand a little before priming... and sometimes after. Do you guys have experience with there clearcote to? ...

[INsejn]

I use motip primer too. It`s good but you have to wait at least a week to sand it.

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by INsejn

I use motip primer too. It`s good but you have to wait at least a week to sand it.

?? You sure about that? I'm not
In my experience it's ready to go in a couple of hours.
What about you, Oli?

[wouter1981]

and what about using motip primer, tamiya paint (spraycans) and motip clear? That combination would be ideal.... 2/3 of the paints give me the price benefit and 1/3 give me the big colour selection...

[bigfrit]

Originally Posted by klutz_100

?? You sure about that? I'm not
In my experience it's ready to go in a couple of hours.
What about you, Oli?

Twenty to thirty minutes, prolly..., once the smell has gone off of the model

As for clear, I would also want to know about that, i ve always used the tamiya clear tho...

[klutz_100]

There is no logical reason for them to be incompatible.

I've put Tamiya TS lacquer over Motip primer without any problem.

Motip clear is also an acrylic laquer (I think) so there also shouldn't be any problem with outting that over Tamiya TS. I don't know about the quality of it, should be at least OK, though.

I just put Tamiya clear over Motip paint without any problem.

[bigfrit]

I d want to do the exact opposite thing, klutz!

using the nice tamiya paints (especially metallics with the small flakes compared to the motip ones) combined with the cheap-yet very evenly drying motip clear

(I ve seen this used by my pal Stijn, and I must say it's fabulous, it dried almost perfectly flush and gives this deep deep shine, and at about one third of the price, you can't go bad about it, can you?

I ll have to try it out sometime.

Olivier

[klutz_100]

It was the only clear I had and I was trying to finish the damn car in 36 hours - no time for shopping!

[INsejn]

Originally Posted by klutz_100

?? You sure about that? I'm not
In my experience it's ready to go in a couple of hours.
What about you, Oli?

I had problems with Motip primer and paint when i was to quick . While sanding or polishing the paint just fell off. On the next projects(Honda and Mazda) i`ve left the primer and paint for about 2 weeks and everything was ok.

I`ve used Motip clear and it`s good. I`ve painted my Honda with it.

[Cold_Fire]

What about trying some primer from any paint company? I don't know where you live to say one brand, I just mean that paints for the walls of your house, that kind of brand.

I use some primer from one of these companies, "Titan". It's an enamel / synthetic primer, for "difficult adherence surfaces" as it's stated in the bottle. It works really well, you can sand it very well and it's a great primer for any surface and paint.

I got the idea from another modeller in my city who makes resin airplanes with metal, plastic and paper parts. This kind of primer works perfectly in any of these surfaces.

The best thing is that one can of this kind of primer is worth something like 4 or 5 euro (6 or 7 USD). You get one of these and for that money you have primer for years, the primer will probably dry before you spend it.

I recommend you to give a try to this kind of primer, it works perfectly and it's very cheap compared to any "modeller's product".

Regards