New Skyline R35 GTR engine

[Pennzoil GT-R]

whilst i know that the "35" stands for the engine capacity in the new Skyline, instead of being next in line after R32, 33, 34, is it true that the 3.5 litre engine will be a version of the 3.5l V8 twin turbo from the R390 GT1 LeMans car?

i hope it is true!!!

[Jay!]

No dice... It's a 3.5L V6; VQ-series, IIRC. Nissan isn't in the habit of being unpredictable these days.

[Pennzoil GT-R]

damn. how cool would it have been to have the le mans engine in one of the best chassis' in the world

[Doughnutdemon]

I think the V6 is for the Skyline models. The GTR (no longer supposed to be a Skyline, just a GTR) is supposed to have one of
a) the aforesaid R390 V8
b) the V8 from the Infiniti Q45
c) a twin turbo version of b)

I like c!

[moondog]

the smart money is on a VQ35DETT - which one of the JGTC teams debuted in their R34 GTR recently, making it a pretty sure thing that'll be the engine in the next GTR

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by moondog
the smart money is on a VQ35DETT - which one of the JGTC teams debuted in their R34 GTR recently, making it a pretty sure thing that'll be the engine in the next GTR

Seeing as the next Skyline/GTR is a while away from coming out, do you think that maybe Nissan or Nismo will offer the JGTC engine as an upgrade to the current Skyline?

[Gonthrax]

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


Seeing as the next Skyline/GTR is a while away from coming out, do you think that maybe Nissan or Nismo will offer the JGTC engine as an upgrade to the current Skyline?

I doubt it, they just wern't designed like the other GTRs. The only AWD model designed for superior wet/snow traction

Any who, the '04 GTR will most likely feature a decendent of the Infinity V8. Atleast thats what most people "in the know" think... All I ask is good responce to forced induction

[NIF]

When Cadillac force-fed the Aurora v-8 used in the IRL it made approx. 450hp (the Cadillac is the Le Mans racecar). The n/a version made nearly 300 more horse that the turbo!?!? O.K. yes the indy motor turns more revs (follow me here I do have a point) but last week I was talking to one of the engineers who worked for Riley & Scott (builder of the Cadillac chassis) he told me that the motor could have easily made over 1000hp and probably could have reached 1200 . My point is this if Nissan does put a v-8 (which will have similarities to their indy motor) in the new gtr, I think be it n/a or turbo the hp potential will make a lot of people feel giddy inside.:silly2:

[Pennzoil GT-R]

well the little flat 6er can produce way in excess of 1000hp, so what will Nissan's bigger infinity V8 be able to do!!!!



btw i still am hopin that it will be the R390's V8!!!

[moondog]

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
btw i still am hopin that it will be the R390's V8!!!

I'm not. I can just see all the moronic V8 boys now: "huh huh huh ... y'see Cletus? Ya jest can't do with only 6 cylinduhs. Ya needs a big injun wit' a V8 if ya's gunna make any powuh. huh huh huh" They'll just all think they were right all along and that that proves how "superior" their jurassic V8s are to smaller high tech japanese turbocharged engines.



The only "advantage" you could say a V8 has is that of packaging a large-displacement engine. So if you're gonna go for only 3.5 Litres, why not stick with a 6 - even an inline 6 (the best sort of engine). TVR do it, as do Aston Martin (and as did Jaguar until they became Ford ), and nobody complains about their engines.

I still say the ultimate engine for the new GTR (though it won't happen) would be a 3.5 litre twin turbocharged inline 6. Yeah baby!!!!






hmmmph. Raf is sad that won't happen.

[Gonthrax]

Originally posted by moondog


I'm not. I can just see all the moronic V8 boys now: "huh huh huh ... y'see Cletus? Ya jest can't do with only 6 cylinduhs. Ya needs a big injun wit' a V8 if ya's gunna make any powuh. huh huh huh" They'll just all think they were right all along and that that proves how "superior" their jurassic V8s are to smaller high tech japanese turbocharged engines.



The only "advantage" you could say a V8 has is that of packaging a large-displacement engine. So if you're gonna go for only 3.5 Litres, why not stick with a 6 - even an inline 6 (the best sort of engine). TVR do it, as do Aston Martin (and as did Jaguar until they became Ford ), and nobody complains about their engines.

I still say the ultimate engine for the new GTR (though it won't happen) would be a 3.5 litre twin turbocharged inline 6. Yeah baby!!!!






hmmmph. Raf is sad that won't happen.

Bingo!! I say "If it Ain't broke, Don't fix it!" The only issue with the RB was emissions... Now you can't tell me that they can't make the RB26 meet emissions!? Please... But, sense Nissan apparently think's it's broke... Lets hope for the best... An easy RB swap! :silly2:

[Holyterror]

I think that the VQ is so attractive to Nissan (read: Renault) because they're making so many of them. I mean look at all the cars they're going in: Altima, Maxima, 350Z, G35, Quest; and remember that the QR25 is based on the same modular block. The VZ-series V8s are also based on this. So a VQ or VZ would be the cheapest engines for them to produce.

I hope it's a nice motor, because I'm sure a lot of people will be selling them when they rip it out to put in the RB26... :smoker2:

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by moondog


I'm not. I can just see all the moronic V8 boys now: "huh huh huh ... y'see Cletus? Ya jest can't do with only 6 cylinduhs. Ya needs a big injun wit' a V8 if ya's gunna make any powuh. huh huh huh" They'll just all think they were right all along and that that proves how "superior" their jurassic V8s are to smaller high tech japanese turbocharged engines.



The only "advantage" you could say a V8 has is that of packaging a large-displacement engine. So if you're gonna go for only 3.5 Litres, why not stick with a 6 - even an inline 6 (the best sort of engine). TVR do it, as do Aston Martin (and as did Jaguar until they became Ford ), and nobody complains about their engines.

I still say the ultimate engine for the new GTR (though it won't happen) would be a 3.5 litre twin turbocharged inline 6. Yeah baby!!!!






hmmmph. Raf is sad that won't happen.

dont get me wrong, i arent bothered if its a V8, V12, straight 6 or woteva. i just think that the R390 had a brilliant engine. and to be able to say your car uses a LeMan car's engine can hardly be bad for marketing purposes

[VQuick]

You'll see why Nissan wants to use either the VQ V6 or the VK V8.

The VQ already has a racing history, granted it's in normally aspirated form. There is a Formula racing series in Europe using the VQ30DE, and they are getting over 400hp normally aspirated. The VQ is lighter than the RB, and is shorter in length, meaning that a lot of weight can be saved. Weight was always a problem with the GT-R. Like another poster said, the VQ is already in extensive use, and is doing well out on the market.

The VQ is also versatile enough to be used for turbocharging. In Japan, the Nissan Stagea wagon uses a VQ25DET, and already has the same power rating as the stock RB26DETT. That particular VQ has lower compression pistons than the USDM models because it is turbocharged. However, even with the higher ratio, a Maxima owner with a VQ30DE made over 350 whp at only 9.3psi. That's close to 400hp at the flywheel, and he only had 190hp stock. Imagine turbocharging the VQ35DE, which starts out with 65hp more!

Nissan definitely won't be using the VRH35L V8 found in the R390. It is a high-strung, race-only engine, with a magnesium head. This engine would be much too impractical and expensive for Nissan to produce, not to mention for customers to own. How about settling for saying that your car has a Formula racing engine?

Personally, I'm hoping for a form of the VK V8, but I won't be terribly disappointed with a VQ. I already own a car with one, and it's a very sweet engine.

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by VQuick
You'll see why Nissan wants to use either the VQ V6 or the VK V8.

The VQ already has a racing history, granted it's in normally aspirated form. There is a Formula racing series in Europe using the VQ30DE, and they are getting over 400hp normally aspirated. The VQ is lighter than the RB, and is shorter in length, meaning that a lot of weight can be saved. Weight was always a problem with the GT-R. Like another poster said, the VQ is already in extensive use, and is doing well out on the market.

The VQ is also versatile enough to be used for turbocharging. In Japan, the Nissan Stagea wagon uses a VQ25DET, and already has the same power rating as the stock RB26DETT. That particular VQ has lower compression pistons than the USDM models because it is turbocharged. However, even with the higher ratio, a Maxima owner with a VQ30DE made over 350 whp at only 9.3psi. That's close to 400hp at the flywheel, and he only had 190hp stock. Imagine turbocharging the VQ35DE, which starts out with 65hp more!

Nissan definitely won't be using the VRH35L V8 found in the R390. It is a high-strung, race-only engine, with a magnesium head. This engine would be much too impractical and expensive for Nissan to produce, not to mention for customers to own. How about settling for saying that your car has a Formula racing engine?

Personally, I'm hoping for a form of the VK V8, but I won't be terribly disappointed with a VQ. I already own a car with one, and it's a very sweet engine.

u seem to know about the new engine, so u know if Nissan will stick to the 276hp agreement with it?