The New GT500

[TheStang00]

Well guys it kind of seems like Ford is listening to you. the GT500 that was unveiled at the detroit auto show had 475hp up from the 450 estimates from before, and it is mated to a 6 speed manual. im not sure where the extra horsepower comes from, if they are still using the single screw or not. people on here were wishing it had more power and a 6-speed, now both have happened (i know the power increase isnt that much...) what are your thoughts? am i posting up out of date information?

i didnt see anything about the weight of the vehicle.


edit- ahh damnit, it seems jaguar d type already posted all this...

[neatofrito1618]

i like it. its way too heavy though

[BLAZINGZ28]

It's a sweet car but it's defitnetly way to heavy and for the price it's out of the question. Look at the new z06 now that's one fast car and you cant beat the price.

[BlackGT2000]

Has there been any change to the estimated 40,000 it was supposed to cost? I am not a fan of more weight but it only weighs a couple hundred more than the last cobra and its got 475 hp stock. Its also built more solidly than the last generation. I still like it alot.

[01L2Cobra]

Here is the specs

BODY
Construction Unitized welded steel body, aluminum hood

POWERTRAIN AND CHASSIS
ENGINE
Type: V-8
Manufacturing location: Romeo, Michigan
Configuration: Iron Block and Aluminum Heads
Intake manifold: Cast-aluminum with Roots-type supercharger and air-to-water intercooler
Exhaust manifold: Cast iron
Crankshaft: Forged steel
Throttle Body: Dual 60 mm, electronic
Valvetrain: DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder
Valve diameter: Intake: 37.0 mm; Exhaust: 32.0 mm
Pistons: Forged aluminum
Connecting Rods: Cracked forged steel I-beams
Ignition: Coil-on-plug
Bore x stroke: 3.552 x 4.165 in. / 90.22 x 105.8 mm
Displacement: 330 cu. in. / 5,409 cc
Horsepower: 475 (estimated)
Torque: 475 lb.-ft. (estimated)
Compression ratio: 8.4:1
Redline: 6,250 rpm
Idle Speed in Neutral: 750 rpm
Engine control system: Silver Oak PCM
Recommended fuel: Premium only
Fuel capacity: 16.0 gallons
Fuel Injection: Electronic returnless sequential
Oil capacity: 6.0 quarts 5W-50 Full Synthetic
Coolant capacity: 21 quarts

DRIVETRAIN
Layout: Rear-wheel drive

TRANSMISSION
Standard (Type) Tremec TR6060 6-speed manual
Gear Ratios
1st : 2.97
2nd : 1.78
3rd : 1.3
4th : 1.0
5th : 0.80
6th : 0.63
Final Drive: 3.31

SUSPENSION
Front: Reverse-L independent MacPherson strut, 34-mm tubular stabilizer bar
Rear: Three-link solid axle with coil springs, Panhard rod, 24-mm solid stabilizer bar

STEERING
Type: Rack and pinion with power assist
Ratio: 15.7:1
Steering column: Tilt

BRAKES
Type: Four wheel power disc with 4-channel anti-lock braking system (ABS), electronic brake force distribution (EBD) and traction control
Front: Brembo 14-inch diameter vented discs, four-piston aluminum calipers
Rear: 11.8-inch diameter vented discs, two-piston calipers

TIRES AND WHEELS
Tires: P255/45R18 front tires, P285/40ZR18 rear tires
Wheels 18 x 9.5-in machined aluminum wheels with SVT center caps

DIMENSIONS (inches unless otherwise noted) (All dimensions are Preliminary)
EXTERIOR
Wheelbase: 107.1 in.
Overall length: 187.6 in.
Overall width: 73.9 in.
Overall height: 54.5 in., Coupe; 55.7 in., Convertible
Track width, front/rear: 61.9 in. / 62.5 in.
Ground clearance: 5.71 in.

INTERIOR
Seating capacity: 4 passenger
Headroom
Front row: 38.6 in., Coupe; 38.8 in., Convertible
Second row: 35.0 in., Coupe; 36.3 in., Convertible
Legroom
Front row: 42.7 in., Coupe; 42.7 in., Convertible
Second row: 31.0 in., Coupe; 30.3 in., Convertible
Shoulder room
Front row: 55.4 in., Coupe; 55.4 in., Convertible
Second row: 53.3 in., Coupe; 45.0 in., Convertible
Hip room
Front row: 53.6 in., Coupe; 53.6 in., Convertible
Second row: 46.7 in., Coupe; 45.4 in., Convertible
Cargo Volume: 12.3 cu. ft., Coupe; 9.7 cu. ft., Convertible

WEIGHTS AND CAPACITIES (pounds unless otherwise noted)
Curb weight, pounds-
Coupe ~3,920 pounds
Convertible ~4,040 pounds
Weight distribution: (f/r) 57/43

SAFETY
Safety belts: Load-limiting seat belts with pretensioners and height-adjustable shoulder belts for front seating positions (coupe)
Three-point safety belts for all seating positions
BeltMinder™ safety-belt reminder chime
Air bags: Dual-stage driver and front-passenger air bags with crash-severity sensor, driver-seat-position sensor and front-passenger weight sensor
Seat-deployed side air bags for driver and front passenger
Child safety: Childproof rear door locks
LATCH anchors for rear outboard seats
Brakes Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Traction-control system
Fuel: Inertia-activated shutoff switch for fuel pump
Security: SecuriLock™ passive anti-theft system
Remote keyless entry
Separate alarm sounder
Anti-tow sensor
Ultrasonic interior motion sensor
Perimeter anti-theft battery

MAJOR STANDARD EQUIPMENT
Audio system: Shaker 500: AM/FM stereo with six-disc CD/MP3 player with eight speakers

EXTERIOR
Badging: Unique GT500
Top: Black cloth (Convertible only)
Exhaust: Tuned dual stainless steel
Fascia: Unique GT500 color-keyed front and rear
Fog lamps: Front
Grille: Unique upper with Cobra emblem
Hood: Unique with heat extractors
Locking: Remote keyless entry
Spoiler: Unique color-keyed decklid spoiler
Trim: Over-the-top "LeMans" stripes and "GT500" side stripes (Coupe)
"GT500" side stripes (Convertible)
Trunk: “Fix a Flat” tire repair kit

INTERIOR
Air conditioning: Manual
Console: Center with full armrest and storage
Cupholders: 2
Door trim inserts: Soft vinyl
Floor mats: Front, color-keyed with driver-side retention hook
Instrument cluster: Includes boost gauge and message center, SVT graphics
Map pockets: Front doors
Power points: 2
Scuff plates: Door sills, with bright SVT script insert
Seats: Leather sport buckets; 6-way power adjustable driver seat with power lumbar and 2-way adjustable head restraint
Shift knob: Unique with leather shift boot and parking brake handle
Steering wheel: Leather-wrapped with unique thumb pads, adjustable for tilt
Windows/door locks: Power

OPTIONS
DELETE OPTIONS
"LeMans" stripes: Coupe only
"GT500" side stripes: Coupe, Convertible

AUDIO
Shaker 1000: 1000 watt audio system: AM/FM stereo, in-dash six-disc CD/MP3 player, 10 speakers
Satellite radio: SIRIUS

PACKAGE
GT500 Premium Interior
Trim Package: Wrapped and stitched instrument panel brow and center condole with upgraded door armrest, electrochromic rearview mirror and aluminum pedal covers

EXTERIOR/INTERIOR COLORS
EXTERIOR
Paint/stripe colors: Torch Red Clearcoat with Performance White or Satin Silver stripes
Alloy Clearcoat Metallic with Satin Silver or Tungsten stripes
Vista Blue Clearcoat with Performance White or Tungsten stripes
Performance White Clearcoat with Vista Blue or Tungsten stripes
Tungsten Grey Clearcoat with Satin Silver stripes
Valencia Yellow Clearcoat with Tungsten stripes
Ebony Clearcoat with Performance White or Tungsten stripes
Convertible top Black cloth

INTERIOR
Charcoal Black/Charcoal Black
Charcoal Black/Crimson Red

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Warranty 3-year, 36,000-mile bumper-to-bumper limited warranty

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by BlackGT2000

Has there been any change to the estimated 40,000 it was supposed to cost? I am not a fan of more weight but it only weighs a couple hundred more than the last cobra and its got 475 hp stock. Its also built more solidly than the last generation. I still like it alot.

Base GT500 will start in the low 40's, then gas guzzler tax, dealer charges. I hope everyone that gets one is ready to bend over and take it since the same thing that happend to the GT its going to the GT500.

[BlackGT2000]

Well I am sure they will sell. They fill a niche right now. They really don't have any direct competition, other than the concept camaro and concept challenger that may come in the future. The new mustangs are selling like crazy and I know there will be people out there that will spend the extra to have the most powerful one out there.

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by BlackGT2000

Well I am sure they will sell. They fill a niche right now. They really don't have any direct competition, other than the concept camaro and concept challenger that may come in the future. The new mustangs are selling like crazy and I know there will be people out there that will spend the extra to have the most powerful one out there.

Well actually they do. The market that Ford is going after is the baby boomers and most of them that buy cars in that price range get Vettes, SRT-8s, and so on. Cars that they wish they had growing up (Vette) and those that are more practical yet still have some kick (your SRTs). If they new Mustangs are selling like crazy why is that that at the Ford dealer next to where I work there are always at least 15 new ones and 5 used one on the lot? Remember what happened to the 04's? They built too many and the MSRP was so high they flooded dealers lots to the point they had to start selling them at list or under. Every day a car remains on the lot the profit margin that car makes at the time it sells decreases.

[TheStang00]

i dont really think you can argue that the new mustangs are selling well... i dont have the numbers on hand but its kind of a given. the dealers dont want to run out so they order extra. the new mustang hasnt been out to much more than a year and i see tons of them, its doin pretty good. the rest of the car market is what ford needs to worry about selling, not the mustang.

[01L2Cobra]

Like I said there are always at least 15 new ones and 5 used one on the lot. That means 1 in 3 ends up being traded in within the first year. That realy isn't good odds if you think about it. Sure it means sales but it also means a lot of people aren't happy with them for one reason or another. Odds like that tells me there must be something wrong with it. Only time will tell what that those problems really are when the newness of the car wears off and real review start coming in.

[TheStang00]

not trying to argue your point at all, i just saw the top gear with the new mustang, while it may not be the newest episode idk, they said a mustangs average shelf life on a lot is 15 minutes. i thought that was pretty impressive, although not much else on their review was.

i think you have some valid points though. it could be people that bought a v6 and didnt get the performance they wanted, in that case they are idiots for buying that version. also whenever a new car model comes out there are always problems with it, a large portion of these trade ins could be people who are sick of finding the little problems of a new car. ive heard of this happening with the new cobalt, they had some serious problems at first. if i remember correctly it also happened with the focus its first two years. just some thoughts

[AltecZX2]

40k isnt bad...i hav a pic of an 06 Si set at 34k after 13k markup LOL

and the focus had MAJOR RECALLS lol
i do think the v6 mustang is under powered, a sporty v6 needs 230hp minimum now adays.

there are 7 used 05's total in 3 local lots, v6's and GT's

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

not trying to argue your point at all, i just saw the top gear with the new mustang, while it may not be the newest episode idk, they said a mustangs average shelf life on a lot is 15 minutes. i thought that was pretty impressive, although not much else on their review was.

The one where Clarkson even says its "it's not a very good car"? Yea its old. Did you notice how when they reviewed it they had to take it out on the longest straight flat road they could find.

http://cec.wustl.edu/~ljm1/personal/...Mustang4-2.avi


I just found the first real review (and its a Clarkson review) of the 05's its nothing held back and even has a track test done at Laguna Seca. I couldn't agree more! This is the same impression I got when I test drove one.
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...4313_1,00.html

"By European standards this car is rubbish. Its engine has wasteful, unused capacity that turns fuel into nothing, it couldn’t get from one end of a country lane to the other without running out of brakes and it handles like a newborn donkey.

So what’s it like to drive? Well, the previous day I’d taken it on a hard lap of the extraordinarily beautiful Laguna Seca raceway, which, because it’s the curliest track in North America, is regarded by racing drivers all over the world as one of the greats. Mansell. Villeneuve. Even Top Gear’s Stig go all misty eyed at the mention of it.

And frankly it was more than a match for Ford’s big daft horse. Its brakes were cooked by turn six; the final slow corner completely overwhelmed the live rear axle; and through the fearsome Corkscrew, which twists down a gradient so steep you can’t even walk up it, I’m afraid Mr Ed was about as pin sharp as a punt gun. "

[TheStang00]

heh i was well aware of the review... lol

[JaZzGypsy]

I cant wait!!! Its exciting to see this car making a come back.. You guys here about the CS6 stang Shelby is putting out.. they are comparing it to the GT350...nice styling....