Can this be saved? Please?

[klutz_100]

What to do?

Tamiya 2CV. Primed with Motip grey auto plastic primer (used a few times before without problems). Painted from rattle can with Motip Gloss Black acrylic auto lacquer. 2 mist coats. Lightly wet sanded with 2000 grit. One wet-ish coat and then on the second wet coat it dried out into this! look at the front fenders...





Can this be saved do you think? Or will it need stripping? 6 months work and I was getting close

Also, what happened? I was painting in my cellar workshop, ambient temp around 10-14 centigrade. Lots of snow and frost outside.

Your help/advice MUCH appreciated.

[bri g]

looks like the top coat ate through the primer and etched the plastic. I've had that happen to me before and if the etching is not too deep, just strip the paint in brake fluid and then give it a good sand to even things out.

[primera man]

Strip it and start again.
How long did you wait utill you painted before you wet sanded?
Looks like it may have trapped some water between coats or the paint has attacked the primer

[INsejn]

Motip gloss black is weird paint. It can leave very rough orange peel. Try to sand this with 2000 grit and maybe it`ll help. I had problems with this paint too but i sanded it and was ok.

[ZoomZoomMX-5]

Don't strip it yet! That can probably be fixed, I've seen much worse. First you should see if you can sand it smooth. Perhaps a clearcoat (Tamiya or enamel or acrylic like Gunze Mr. Topcote-don't use more automotive stuff) can then be applied to gloss it up w/o lifting the paint. Or use Tamiya black instead of automotive paint. Don't strip it unless those two tricks damage or further damage the paint underneath.

Too many modelers freak out and automatically strip paint that can be much easier fixed than all the time it takes to strip and start over. At least try to fix this...it will likely save you a lot of further trouble.

[bigfrit]

Hey, stevenski!

consider myself an expert in fucking up paintjobs

This looks pretty bad tho, i had a similar experience with the gloss black by motip.

Once it went on pretty well, dried up neatly, then I let it rest quite a long while and decided it could use an extra coat of paint (not clear) so I painted it.

Three weeks after this i took the car from the drying place, and checked for any irregularities; and pow, the paint just peeled off!

quite funny.

And another time, i had similar results (if you want to call em that) as you have now, i decided i was going to put it in the DOT4 as it's quite thick, the motip paint.

I guess it's all up to you, you can try and fix it, but beware of the panellines!

oh, and now I m only using tamiya paints, and still manage to fuck up!

Oli

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by bigfrit

Hey, stevenski!

consider myself an expert in fucking up paintjobs

This looks pretty bad tho,

So Oli, in your expert opinion, this paint job is definately f**ed up then, huh?

Thanks gents for the input.
I've decided I'm going to go for a "save" (for the practice and the learning curve) and since the project is supposed to be weathered anyway. If that still doesn't work out acceptably, then I can still strip it anyway. Interesting to see what happens...

[klutz_100]

UPDATE:

Methinks things are looking optimistic at this point!!

I did a test on just one wing (fender?).
First I fairly gently wet sanded it with 1200 grit.


Then I started smoothing out with 2000 and 2500 grits. I followed this up with macguire's scratch-X (first time using it and think it's tons better than taiya corse compaound) and then macguires cleaning wax.
Here you can see the treated and untreated parts:


And here's a close up of the treated part:


There are still some very fine marks in there but I think that actually this is a finish close to what I would call realistic on a used car which is what i am aiming for BTW.

It's very difficult sanding carefully in some of the creases and I barely rubbed through to primer on a couple of edges but if this is the worst I do, I'll will turn that into weathering.

I'll try this technique out on the rest of the car. If it works, it's good testimony to what can be achieved with some sanding and rubbing!

[ZoomZoomMX-5]

Now wasn't that a lot easier than stripping the paint and starting from scratch? This thread needs to be seen by everyone who automatically says "strip it!" when they get a paint problem. Unless it's a grievous error or the paint is getting too thick, stripping should be saved as the last resort; if you keep calm and keep cool you can often fix a problem like this. Great save!

[bigfrit]

have to agree with ZZ MX5, awesome save there!

Oli

[klutz_100]

Thanks ZoomZoom! Good call and good advice.

Oli, there are still another 3 fenders and a few body panels left for me to f-up

[Vric]

This look better. Black is very hard to get a good finish (well this is the color that give me the most problem and never end up with great result) anyway, some more polishing and it could be good !

[gionc]

Looks great, I was too much in a hurry, so I'm really happy for you