strange '80 Camaro

[MagicRat]

Hi,
I have owned many strange cars over the years, but now am looking at my first Camaro.

It is a base model 1980, in good condition, 77 k miles and has a 305 with a 4 spd. manual.

Does this driveline combination seem a bit unusual/rare to you? I have never seen anything other than a Z-28 with a 4 spd, (and even then the autos seemed more popular)

Also, any idea what the trans might be, an M20, M21 or M22, or something else? If it's an M20, are these transmissions any weaker than the other Muncie transmissions?

Thank you.

[Rally Sport]

Eh.. that car sounds great, I wouldnt mind having a Z with 4 on the floor.

Anyway I just read up on it and it seems that autos were only avaliable to California only, and everywhere else they sold manuals along with autos. So your Maro seems legit.

[bag91]

Only autos in Cali.....weird

[FormulaLT1]

Yup, you got a 155 Horse LG4 305 and there were two 4 speed's used that year. A saginaw and a warner. Not sure which one you got though.

[Rally Sport]

Originally Posted by bag91

Only autos in Cali.....weird

Hoping to improve fuel economy, the 1980 Camaro featured an anemic engine line-up which included a new Chevy odd-fire 229 V6 rated at 115bhp (a Buick even-fire 231 V6 rated at 110bhp was available in California) which replaced the venerable and heavy L6 engines, and a new 267 V8 rated at a pathetic 120bhp. Power for Z28 models actually increased as the 350 V8 was rated at 190 bhp, except for California buyers who received a 305 V8 rated at 155bhp which was mated to a standard three-speed automatic (no manual transmission was available). Due to the fuel crisis, sales dropped dramatically to 152,005 units.

Thats what I read.. so, yeah.

[bag91]

nice reading Rally......

[FormulaLT1]

The corvette that year which was a standard 350 for all of them was not allowed to use the 350 in Cali. They had to use the 305 engine for the corvettes sold in cali. Just a little bonus info I picked up back when I was a corvette owner

[bag91]

a 305 corvette?????
what were the number on that?

[FormulaLT1]

180 horse.

[Rally Sport]

Damn, thats pretty bad. Damn fuel crisis totally messing up power ratings.. hope we dont go through another one although it seemed like we almost were this year.

[Savage Messiah]

long live the buick 231!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FormulaLT1]

If you listen real close. You can almost hear our friend Andy/Hypsi say amen from heaven.

[MagicRat]

Thank you for the help, guys.
I'll let the owner look at it for another few weeks before making an offer.

[97cavalier]

Originally Posted by MagicRat

Thank you for the help, guys.
I'll let the owner look at it for another few weeks before making an offer.

even with the fuel problems in starting i the 80's how can a v8 only have 180hp? Because i was going to get a 87 t/a untill i saw the hp. How can they get these #'s so low?

[97cavalier]

Originally Posted by 97cavalier

even with the fuel problems in starting i the 80's how can a v8 only have 180hp? Because i was going to get a 87 t/a untill i saw the hp. How can they get these #'s so low?

And why does california have such gay laws about there emissions?