BTN Fuse

tsuowen · #1 12-19-2005, 03:01 PM

I have an electrical drain in my wife's escort. When I have my tester light connected I get a strong glow that goes away when I pull the BTN fuse. Any one have an idea as to what is going on? What does the BTN fuse do? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

AzTumbleweed · #2 12-19-2005, 06:19 PM

Charging System, Power Door Locks, Tail Lights, Brake Lights, Hazard Flashers and "Belt" (whatever that is!)

Maybe disconnect the alternator and see if the drain stops.

tsuowen · #3 12-19-2005, 09:39 PM

Thanks! I just installed a new voltage regulator, the old one was fried and I exploded a battery due to overcharge, but I'm still getting the drain. Any other suggestions?

MT-2500 · #4 12-19-2005, 10:53 PM

You really need a amp draw meter on it and check with the battery hooked up.
The computers draw juice when you hook a test light up on it and give a false reading.
MT

AzTumbleweed · #5 12-20-2005, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT-2500

You really need a amp draw meter on it and check with the battery hooked up.
The computers draw juice when you hook a test light up on it and give a false reading.
MT

So maybe it's fixed since you found a major problem and repaired it.

tsuowen · #6 12-20-2005, 09:44 AM

Well, I haven't tried to see if that keeps the battery from draining, I have a kill switch on the negative side of the battery for the time-being while I try to repair the problem. I'll drive the car today and leave the kill switch in contact and see if I get the drain. Here's another thing, when I start the car, the wipers work, even when they are in the "off" position. I can't make them stop when the car is running, unless I pop the hood and physically unhook the motor. Any help on that one?

Jet-Lee · #7 12-20-2005, 03:19 PM

you just found your short.

AzTumbleweed · #8 12-20-2005, 04:23 PM

There are two plugs on the wiper motor. A black one on the front and gray one on the bottom. On the black one is a solid blue wire. If you cut this wire (or better yet remove the connector from inside the plug) then the wipers should stop when you turn the wiper switch off. They won't 'park' themselves they will just stop at whatever point they are at when you turn off the switch. You'll have to park the wipers by turning the switch off at the right moment. It's that or buy a new wiper motor assembly. The only purpose of the blue wire is to 'park' the wipers after you turn them off. So there is a bad contact or something inside the wiper assembly that is failing to turn off the power once they are parked.
Have you had the wiper arms off recently? Anyway, disabling the blue wire on the black plug should be the fix.

tsuowen · #9 12-20-2005, 04:35 PM

Thanks! I'll do that this afternoon! I haven't had the motor off. I bought a new moter, because I thought the motor was blowing a fuse, however, before I installed the new motor, I simply unhooked the old and plugged in the new. The fuse blew anyway! So I didn't bother with the new motor. The new voltage regulator seemed to fix the fuse blowing problem just fine. I'll cut the blue wire the see what I get. Thanks again!

AzTumbleweed · #10 12-20-2005, 05:28 PM

Hopefully you can get your money back on the new motor that you don't need. Let me know what happens!

tsuowen · #11 12-21-2005, 08:48 AM

I had already returned the new motor and got my money back. However, yesterday afternoon I cut the solid blue wire, plugged the motor in, and just as soon as I turned the key the wipers went to work again. Maybe the old motor is shot. They work no matter where the wiper switch is positioned! Any other suggestions on how to stop them? Thanks for all the help so far.

AzTumbleweed · #12 12-21-2005, 09:01 AM

Sorry that didn't do it.

My guess now is the switch is messed up. Would you be interested in putting a toggle switch in your car? Would be easier than changing the switch. I can go out (when it's daylight) and check which wire you'd need to put the switch on and then double check with the Haynes manual. I'm sure the blue wire was what I said it was for so it's the switch or else something else is messed up inside the wiper assembly. I'll get back to you.

tsuowen · #13 12-21-2005, 10:41 AM

Sure thing. I really appreciate all the help!

AzTumbleweed · #14 12-21-2005, 10:43 AM

I went out and checked. With the ignition on and wiper switch off then only the blue wire should have any power. (So it can park the wipers). On the gray colored plug there is a RED wire. That is the one that makes the wipers go. You could splice a switch into that and put it in your car. It would already be fuse protected by the existing circuit. If you did this then it is possible that hooking the blue wire back up will park the wipers like it is supposed to.

Found out something else too. There is a relay! Probably an expensive one since it'll have the 'interval wiper' mechanism in it. This could very well be the problem. Do you know where the headlight relay is? There's about 5 relays all there together. The wiper relay is the biggest one by far. It's the forward-most relay of the group. Personally, I wouldn't bother to even price one of these! I went to the Ford dealer last week. I needed the little clip that keeps the window crank handle on. He said "if" they had one it would be between 6 and 10 dollars!!!! Excuse me but fuck them!

tsuowen · #15 12-21-2005, 11:26 AM

WOW! That's a ton of GREAT info! Thanks so much for everything! I've got to get this thing working (it's my wife's car and she's been driving the truck until I get hers back like I like it!) Where are the relays? Are then in the box under the hood? If I pull the relay, can I use my meter to check it and see if it is OK? Thanks again!

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