Using the e-brake with an AWD

inatalonIXLR8 · #1 12-14-2005, 06:12 PM

I used to love sliding around everywhere with my first gen 91 Talon. It was only a non-turbo but was so predictable and easy to keep under control in the snow. Now I have a 2G turbo AWD that takes corners even better. I'll always manipulate the throttle to negotiate a corner, but I really would love to use the e-brake. Does it cause damage to the drive train? Thanks.

#2 12-14-2005, 06:17 PM

Uh, I wouldn't do it. I'm sure it doesn't fit into the "taking care of your car," portion.

david-b · #3 12-14-2005, 06:31 PM

Just don't do it.

MexRocket · #4 12-14-2005, 06:50 PM

do it as often as possible, i heard if you don't do that in the winter that your e-brake lines freeze and catch on fire if you dont...

MexRocket · #5 12-14-2005, 06:51 PM

on a serious note, that is bad for not only your brakes but your tires as well... and why the hell would you sure your e-brake for taking a corner? its not like you are taking a 90 degree turn going 65 mph..... but if it is non turbo do it all you want

Thor06 · #6 12-14-2005, 07:04 PM

Yeah, I wouldnt imagine it would be real great on the drive train. I'd get a beater to drift if I were you, your car is far to sexy to fuck up

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Blackcrow64 · #7 12-14-2005, 07:17 PM

I was actually told that we could do that with our AWDs... I can't remember what it was, but something about the drivetrain being able to slip the differential I think... Don't quote me on that though, I could have very well been told wrong. (and I haven't tried it either. lol)

AbsoluteGTR · #8 12-14-2005, 09:14 PM

Well I have a cavalier, and I constantly pull the e-brake, only when it is wet though...I wont pull it going like 60 mph, only like 15-20 mph...

I usually do it with my friends in the car...The funnest part is when it is just drizzling with rain, and I yank up the handbrake and go drifting into my driveway...

Hey, Thor, you and I should love our cavaliers (I have a 2002 4dr black)..OMG they can take SO but SO much shit... I beat the hell out of that cavalier and it is my daily driver, GOD BLESS that car.

Anyways, I wouldnt be pulling the e-brake in an AWD, especially if the car (ex: eclipse) has just one single (center) differential. Unless what blackcrow says is true!

MY PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

***Make sure you know what you are doing when you attempt to drift or whatever, I have practiced many a time, and know my cavalier very well, so I feel confident as to what I am doing, plus I have ABS...furthermore, never do it around people***

Moppie · #9 12-14-2005, 09:30 PM

What a boring bunch of pansies.

Your car has a centre diff, use the damn Hand brake and enjoy driving while your still young and stupid enough to.

Blackcrow64 · #10 12-14-2005, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbsoluteGTR

Unless what blackcrow says is true!

Like I said, don't quote me on that. lol

All I know is my one friend told me we could do that in the snow and it wouldn't hurt anything. I'm pretty sure our rear differentials allow slipping of the rear end. Like, each wheel can move at its own speed. I honestly don't know if thats right or not, but it seems like it would be true. I saw my friend do it several times in his and it works fine still... I'm too scared to try it though.

Moppie · #11 12-14-2005, 09:44 PM

Good lord you guys need to learn some very basic technical knowledge.
I thought these were performance cars, an American basterdisation of the FTO platform, EVO/GSR Lancer drive train and some American styling?

You have a differential on each set of drive wheels that allows the wheel on each side of the car to turn at differnt speeds, and you have another one between each axle, which allows the front and rear wheels to turn at differnt speeds.

You can quite safely and easily lock one set of drive wheels, or just one drive wheel for a short period of time and one or more of the differentials will transfer power to the unlocked wheels.
(note, doing this for a sustrained period of time will destroy one or more of the differentials by over heating it).

Pulling the handbrake as you enter a corner will not cause your car to implode or self destruct, it will simple stop the back wheels from turning and alter balance of grip accross the chassis, hopefully causeing the back to slide out.
You can then let off the handbrake and start to acclerate resulting in a rapid change of direction.
Hopefully its in the direction you wanted to go, and not into a tree, but thats half the fun.

Blackcrow64 · #12 12-14-2005, 09:47 PM

Ahhh so I was on the right path then?

milton666 · #13 12-14-2005, 09:48 PM

lol, i really dont think ive ever made a u-turn or pulled into a drive way without pulling the old e-brake, ive got this one friend that lives on a curve and ive got it work out perfectly to where i come in around 20-25 rip on that bitch and slide sideways around the turn perfectly up into his driveway... stupid story short ive been pulling the e-brake on my car for over a year and only prob i have is worn out back tires...im also not AWD so i dont even know if this thread really applies to me...just my thoughts

AbsoluteGTR · #14 12-14-2005, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moppie

Good lord you guys need to learn some very basic technical knowledge.
I thought these were performance cars, an American basterdisation of the FTO platform, EVO/GSR Lancer drive train and some American styling?

You have a differential on each set of drive wheels that allows the wheel on each side of the car to turn at differnt speeds, and you have another one between each axle, which allows the front and rear wheels to turn at differnt speeds.

You can quite safely and easily lock one set of drive wheels, or just one drive wheel for a short period of time and one or more of the differentials will transfer power to the unlocked wheels.
(note, doing this for a sustrained period of time will destroy one or more of the differentials by over heating it).

Pulling the handbrake as you enter a corner will not cause your car to implode or self destruct, it will simple stop the back wheels from turning and alter balance of grip accross the chassis, hopefully causeing the back to slide out.
You can then let off the handbrake and start to acclerate resulting in a rapid change of direction.
Hopefully its in the direction you wanted to go, and not into a tree, but thats half the fun.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, the most important part is to not hit the tree, j/k, lol. But, I think we (should have) all knew that already!

Thor06 · #15 12-14-2005, 10:27 PM

Shit, I e-brake the Cavy, only in the snow though, not wanting to break something overshadows the thrill I get from drifting (Cavaliers arent exactly "performance" cars and I dont think a lot of the parts were made well enough to take a bunch of shit). I was out screwing around after some snow got good and packed down one day. I hit this corner at like 25 and slid it good, so I turned around and was goign to hit it again. I went in a little faster, around 35, and I accidentally held the e-brake on too long and did a 180 around the corner and slid into a snow bank. My friend Anthony had to get out a push. Its a good thing I wasnt going any faster, I was about a foot from a tree. If I had a DSM, I doubt I would e-brake it unless it was a beat up 1g.

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