Turbo

[JimR]

ok i have an SVT and i am wondering if there is a turbo sys for it, if there is twin turbo that would be even better.

im just starting to mod my svt if there is an website that deals in mostly perfomance for the contour could you tell me?

thx

[zx2srdotnet]

rebuild it with a 3.0l block from a taurus, lower the compression and SC it.


www.contour.org

[pre98zetec]

turbos will net more gain

[zx2srdotnet]

but SC is better for a fun daily

[beyondloadedSE]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

but SC is better for a fun daily

definetely not! Because the Vortech is a centrifugal style supercharger it makes hardly any power under the curve, which means negigable torque improvement. I mean, boost doesnt even kick in until like 5,000 rpm's and doesnt reach full boost until redline. Where is the fun in that? Get a T-28 ADC turbo kit. Youll be making FULL boost by 2,800 rpm's and about 60 more ft lbs of torque compared to the Vortech. Makes higher numbers than the Vortech too. Of course, they dont even make the Vorcrap anymore due to its 100% failure rate.

No they dont make a twin turbo kit, nor would it be logical too due to packaging issues. Makes no more power than a single turbo kit anyways. Why do you think the twin turbo supra owners convert to single?

www.arizonadynochip.com is the place where you can buy a turbo kit.

[JimR]

can i drop a Escape 3.0L dura... in to my contour? or would i have to fabricate a lot of parts??

[beyondloadedSE]

Originally Posted by JimR

can i drop a Escape 3.0L dura... in to my contour? or would i have to fabricate a lot of parts??

Yes you can, as long as you have the 2.5L already. Not the whole engine though. Just the block and heads. As I always recommend, check out contour.org if you want more info. Everything in regards to 3.0L swaps have been discussed 'ad nauseum.' I think close to 100 people now have swapped a 3.0L over there including myself.

[zx2srdotnet]

i drive my friends 3.0 SC that thing makes a shit load of power under 4k, puts his 97 Cobra to shame in the "seat of your pants test"

[beyondloadedSE]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

i drive my friends 3.0 SC that thing makes a shit load of power under 4k, puts his 97 Cobra to shame in the "seat of your pants test"

come take a ride in my turbo tour and youll think its a night and day difference. A 3.0L Vorteched SVT at Spring Zing last year made 340 whp, and only a mere 269 wtq. A T-28 turbo 2.5L makes more torque than that with half a liter of displacement. Of course, my 3.0L T3/T4 Contour made 410 wtq. Even a T3/T4 2.5L crushed the Vortech with 380 wtq. You base you results on the butt dyno, and ill base mine on an actual dyno. Dyno plots dont lie. Vortech makes significantly less torque and overall power under the curve.

btw...for reference

Turbo T-28 2.5L


Vorteched 2.5L...just starts to make more power at 4,200 rpms. (where is the snooze smiley?) Btw, naturally aspirated 3.0Ls make more torque than this.


Look at the torque on the turbo 2.5L. At 2,500 rpm's its already at 200 wtq! It makes power almost instantly and at 3,000 rpms its at about 274 wtq. Meanwhile, the Vortech is still putting along waiting to spool up.

If somebody made a roots style supercharger, then torque numbers would actually be comparable.

[zx2srdotnet]

why the fuck should I care?

[pre98zetec]

aww lets be an ass now because he told you off

[beyondloadedSE]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

why the fuck should I care?

Because your telling this guy to build a low compression supercharged motor instead of a turbo motor. What benefits from going this route? Youll now lose horsepower, boatloads of torque, power under the curve, and most importantly, reliability. The Vorcrap is absolute trash. 100% failure rate. Its a loss in every aspect.

The Vortech can be fixed to make reliable, but out the door its more expensive than the ADC kit. Theres nothing wrong with that if you want a dyno queen and a dog until about 4,000 rpms. You want the guy to have a fun daily driver, and imho its a bad suggestion when the turbo kit is a better option. Read the complaints from the people from contour.org that have the Vortech. Its all there. Im not trying to tell him off, Im just posting hard facts and why my opinion is completely different.

[zx2srdotnet]

who the fuck said to use a V kit?

[beyondloadedSE]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

who the fuck said to use a V kit?

The Vortech is the only supercharger available for the Contour/Cougar. Like I said earlier, if they made a roots style supercharger then it would be a whole different story and would be vary comparable to the ADC kit. As close as your gonna get is the roots style Kenne Belle from the 3.0L Escape however it will not fit on a Contour/Cougar due to hood clearance.

[zx2srdotnet]

who siad it HAD to be a kit? If i was goinf FI i'd build my own kit.


well for the ZX2 i kinda HAVE to, the Gude kit is a POS ans focus-power wants 10k