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#1
11-21-2005, 06:18 PM
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3sgte vs Monkeywrenchracing 1zzfe
Hey what would be a better choice?
3sgte vs Monkeywrenchracing 1zzfe? 
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#2
11-22-2005, 08:18 AM
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Re: 3sgte vs Monkeywrenchracing 1zzfe
the 3sgte will always be better than any zz engine. sure you could mod a zz to be better but put that $ in a 3sgte and it will be better. inn the 3sgte you not only have super strong internals and an iron block you also have that .2l displacement advantage.
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#3
11-23-2005, 09:08 AM
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yeah but you cant find a newer 3sgte engine now-a-days. There all going to be way used.
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#4
11-25-2005, 01:22 AM
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Re: 3sgte vs Monkeywrenchracing 1zzfe
ZZ are lighter as well. More compact. And much more available. Probably not as durable though. I guess it really depends on the build.
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#5
11-25-2005, 03:27 AM
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Yeah and they are newer. So they have to be more advanced in technology. Maybe not as durable but cooler too.
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#6
11-26-2005, 02:15 PM
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In a 7th gen 1zz > 3S-GTE.
If you swap in the 3S-GTE, it will kill the handling characteristics of the car because of the huge increase of weight on the front end. Go with the turbo 1zz. Here's a quote from Smaay over at newcelica.org. He is one of the most knowledgable people on the site. Get off the 3S-GTE bandwagon....you gotta remember the 3S is a heavy ass motor and in stock trim is slow...My MR2 was pushing 17psi making about 250WHP and an all motor GT-S pulled on me like i was standing still...you will have to spend about 5-6 grand on the motor itself to make big power...then 10 grand to get it in the f'ing car!!! Im not a 3S hater, you should know that i have an All-Trac...that has a 3S-GTE in it...i just know by experience what it takes to make a 3S-GTE powerful...and stock it isnt...
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#7
11-27-2005, 09:40 AM
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Wow, thats good. So he is saying just stick with the zz instead of wasting my time on the 3s-gte?
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#8
11-27-2005, 06:42 PM
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Re: 3sgte vs Monkeywrenchracing 1zzfe
if ur talkin about swapping a 3s into a 7th gen then id say no just stick with the 2zz but motor for motor i would have to say 3sgte.
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#9
11-27-2005, 10:55 PM
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Re: 3sgte vs Monkeywrenchracing 1zzfe
Unless you can get yourself an aluminum block 3sgte.... woah, imagine that...
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#10
11-28-2005, 08:08 PM
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Re: 3sgte vs Monkeywrenchracing 1zzfe
Just import one from japan, big swap shops will do it for you. Cost like 4~5K just for a 3SGE Beams swap and then another 3~4K for a turbo setup. You could go broke real fast building up a new alluminum 3S
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