hhm...interesting 420a swap thought

[gthompson97]

first of all i'm not a newbie so don't even start on that...but since everyone's always asking "what can you swap in besides just another 420a" and 99% of them want to put in a 4g63 engine, but that is 180 degrees off from the stock one, BUT THEN.........

there's the Evo engine. and that one is 180 degrees off of the turbo, which would make it the same setup as the 420a (motor on passenger side, tranny on driver side). i was looking at some pictures and some of the engine bay is actually similar, not exact, but similar. i wonder if this wouldn't be a more feasable project than a stock 4g63. i might just have a new summer project being as my RS needs a new engine bay (thanks to a fucking fire) and have to put the talon on hold for awhile.

[l_eclipse_l]

That's an interesting thought...

[hellah fresh]

post up some pictures! i want to see... the only thing i could think of by getting more HP out of our 420a motor is to get a 2.2 stroker kit at www.howellautomotive.com.

[drdisque]

well, you still have the problems in that there's no mounts for that engine for the NA subframe, the axles won't fit, there's no 2WD trans that I know of that will bolt to an evo engine (maybe a 3G GS or 2G Spyder trans), and all the wiring.

[hellah fresh]

Originally Posted by drdisque

well, you still have the problems in that there's no mounts for that engine for the NA subframe, the axles won't fit, there's no 2WD trans that I know of that will bolt to an evo engine (maybe a 3G GS or 2G Spyder trans), and all the wiring.

dude... thats why you have to reweld and cut to make your own custom engine mounts and use all the trannys and axles from that evo to make it work. Well at least from what i know that is what all civics have do when they are installing a 2.2vtec into their little enginebay. So motor,tranny,axles, and front suspensions. How do i know!? lets just say.. Got Jack'd!? Lol but seriously you will need all the front suspensions and tranny axles... which can cost a fortune... but if your rich... hook me up too man!!!!

[gthompson97]

Originally Posted by drdisque

well, you still have the problems in that there's no mounts for that engine for the NA subframe, the axles won't fit, there's no 2WD trans that I know of that will bolt to an evo engine (maybe a 3G GS or 2G Spyder trans), and all the wiring.

actually the engine mount on the passenger side is almost exactly like the one in the 420a and the tranny mounts are in somewhat the same position too, maybe not exact but you could fab up something of your own to make it work. couldn't you just run the tranny as a 2wd instead of a awd? and i have to replace ALL my engine wiring anyways so that's not an issue. but it was just a thought, i just figured i'd see what people at my second house thought.

[gthompson97]

Originally Posted by hellah fresh

post up some pictures! i want to see... the only thing i could think of by getting more HP out of our 420a motor is to get a 2.2 stroker kit at www.howellautomotive.com.

there aren't really any pictures to post...it's just the thought that the engines are setup the same way.

[clipsekid99]

Wow, you are right. That thought never crossed my mind that both of the motors are positioned the same way. I'd say go for it if you can get the evo motor!

[Thor06]

I bet an EVO engine will cost a shit load, but an excellent idea. I suppose you could just not put the transfer case and back stuff on, but that would be kinda ghetto rigged. You could just convert it to awd, but that wouldnt exactly be easy.

[hellah fresh]

thats just too much money.... but if you really love your 2g then you'll be the first. F* everyone else... GO FOR IT!

[gthompson97]

well i found an evo motor, tranny, and wiring harness on ebay for like $1000, but then again ebay is kinda sketchy sometimes. i'm gonna look into it a little more. but come this summer yall might be seeing an rs with an evo VIII motor.

[duckydsp]

Ok, so its been like.....forever since I have visited, but I am happy to see an idea like that when I get back. If you want to go for it, forget what everyone else says. It would be the first time Ive seen it. If it all works out, let us know how you did it, and post some pics!!!

[gthompson97]

i think this summer i'm either going to swap in a 4g63 or evo VII just because i can. i'll definitely have a write-up and pics if i get it accomplished. maybe even a small video or something. i like doing rare things like this so this might just be my calling.

[clipsekid99]

I shall sit here waiting patiently lol

[gthompson97]

you could be waiting quite awhile...but who knows, maybe i'll have enough ambition to start it this x-mas too.