Rattle in engine compartment

[01_Celica_GT]

Hey, I have some rattle in my engine compartment and I can't figure out what it is. It sounds like its coming from the back of the engine but I can see it. I'm not sure what it could be.

My girlfriend's cavalier z24 makes a lot of noise when you dont change the oil for about 7000 miles so I was thinkin that might be it. I'm not sure though.

Any info?

[jwaj2002]

change the oil, could be the power steering pump though, its on the backside though

[2000CelicaGT]

Could be the bearings. The previous owner of my 2000 Celica neglected to change the oil on a regular basis, therefore ruining the bearings. Good luck!

[01_Celica_GT]

Sounds like my problem. When I went to get my oil changed the guys at valvoline said my oil was pitch black and starting to get kinda chunky.

Well now the sounds has got worse and now there is knocking sound in my engine that is starting to get louder and louder as the day go by. I have an appointment at the local toyota dealer next week. I have an extended warranty on my car so I hope that stuff is covered.

[jwaj2002]

remove the powersteering pump belt, sounds like the noise my truck makes when the powersteering fluid is gone

[01_Celica_GT]

Alright well today I drove down to the local cub about 10 miles away and my engine started to make lod, very loud noise coming from the engine. My car couldnt get past about 60 MPH. Well when I was about 1/2 home something went "CRACK" and my engine automaticly died. It has power, enough power to start then engine but the starter doesn't move ANYTHING so it just clicks and sits there....

Any suggestions?

I have an extended warranty, but the worst part is that it has been sitting on the side of the road ALL THANKSGIVING. So I was screwed today for they towing.

[calicelica]

holy shiet! what kind of abuse have you done to your car so far? :P It seems like your engine already misfires and then blew. If you cant get past 60 mph, thats serious shit. The damages could range all the way from engine internals to transmission... you cant even go past 60...thats amazing... Btw, did you ever check your timing belt? mb your piston and valves collided....

[jwaj2002]

Originally Posted by calicelica

Btw, did you ever check your timing belt? maybe your piston and valves collided....

according to toyota, that is impossible, they have enough of a gap to keep them from ever truely touching

[01_Celica_GT]

Nah dude, I just bought it and babied it. I has been in the shop 3 times for stupid stuff and now this. The person before me must have beat on it bad.

When I started to drive it was acting good. Then I pulled up to a turn lane and the car started sputtering. Then it was driving it was making mad noise and then BAM sounded and felt like something blew out. I went out of the road and I looked for it but I cound not find anything.

I hope the toyota dealer calls me back today and I hope that they dont charge me anymore then the deductible.

[01_Celica_GT]

Alright guys. Well I got a call back from the dealer and they told me it was the starter......

I said "no way, look again, I don't think my car would die if the starter went out."

They looked again and then they called me back and told me bad news.

The rod and the piston bearings blew through the block and therefore I need a whole new engine.

Does anyone know why this cound happen? Someone told me it was probably water in my engine and then someone else told me it was because I didn't change my oil but valvoline tole me it would be ok because I put full synthetic in there and he said it would last up to 8000 miles. Considering I only put 7000 miles on my car since I got it, I don't think that it was my oil.

[blakscorpion21]

if your oil was black and chunky u needed to change it.

[91 Celica St]

first

all celcia eninges all the way back to the 22re's are non-interface motors, the pistons cannot hit the valves...and if the timing belt breaks there can be no damdge done to the head

water would not do that, i have sucked up probably close to 1/4 gallon of water in my celica (thoguht i could make it thorugh a puddle going up to this 4 wheeling spot), hydrolocking is easy to remove, just pull the spark plugs, pull the 2 wires on the distributor and crank it over till all or most the water is gone, put everything back together, whats leftover should just blow out the exhuast valves.

not chaning the oil for that many miles/water would not cause taht, something fucked up eitehr causing massive dentonation, or someone could have neglected to cahgne oil before you, if it was chuncky chances are the rod bearings and the mains failed causing this, thats my giuess if you heard a rattling sound, that the rod bearings failed and a rod broke loose

[calicelica]

ooh, I never knew that :P I thought all engines can collide piston-to-valve up to this day, hence timing belt.... but anyway, waht kind of misuse can break a rod's bearing? unless its manufacturer's fault, or boosted/revving out of sense (which isn't)... better make sure the warranty covers all that stuff.

[01_Celica_GT]

Alright, well they told me that they're going to buy me a new engine. They are ordering it from the toyota manufacturer and i'll be getting my car back by next tuesday.

Now my next project is to ruin my transmission so I can get a brand new one

[calicelica]

hahaha!!! thats great. careful though.