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10-28-2005, 04:43 AM
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AE86 vs. Celicas
Just a thought.
Finally caught on that 4age is a Sprinter Trueno "hachi-roku" engine...strange that todays mods keeps coming back to this. And here I thought "initial D" comics are old. Wonder why toyota have Trueno AND the celica (3rd gen) at the same time? They're both RWD sport compacts. Kinda similar too. If 4age is way more superior than most toyota engine at the time, why bother making them 22R and stuff? 
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#2
10-28-2005, 06:33 PM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
because the 22r was about 4 years prior to the 4age, they ended production of the 22re (in celicas) in 84, production for the 4age started in 85 (84 were 4ac) and went to 7 rib from 3 in 86+
22re was a lot older then the 4age, and celicas never used the 4age beucase they lacked the tourqe toyota wanted for a front wheel drive econemy car n fyi i just bought a 82 corlla hatchback with a 3t-c motor
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10-28-2005, 07:01 PM
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82 corrolla hatchback...just one gen away from 4age. You're planning to go retro huh? 2 valve-carburated? reminds me of those 1st gen guys who swapped in sr20det. Is this a hint that you're going to do something like that?
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#4
10-28-2005, 09:50 PM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
actually in Japan GT celicas I think in the year 84 had 4AGEs. The GT-TS model had the 3TGTE. There are many reasons for having a Celica and Corolla. Mainly because of their racing choices, the celica competed in Group B while the corolla competed in that 1600 cc class can't remember the name. Plus the celicas were more muscle than the 86's and weighed more.
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#5
10-28-2005, 11:46 PM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
^ jap=way diff than america, they got 3rd gen 3sge's i their 5th gens with 160 hp opposed to our 130/135
someithng like that, all im going to say is withthe rolla....its not staying n/a like my celica 
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10-29-2005, 01:01 AM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
oh I thought he meant Celica in general. My bad.
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#7
10-30-2005, 10:44 AM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
Hah....Initial D. In order to have an AE86 like that you need to do a lot of work. That game over rates the hachi roku. Yea and things in Japan are really different.
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10-30-2005, 06:55 PM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
^not really, ae86's are one of the most ideal drifting cars
and they cant drift very well withought alot of front wheel negative camber....and yes they take a fair amount of work to the body, suspension and also alot of engine work cuz there slow
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#9
10-30-2005, 08:50 PM
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Ive only seen one ae86 around here, I had no idea how hard they are to find now. St are you getting rid of the celica?
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 2005 Neon Stage 1 PCM l K&N CAI l Mopar rice plate l 3'' TBE l Spring mod l PB shift knob l Mopar strut bars F&R l ACR sways l Tokico Shocks/ Tein Springs l Ricey wing removal l JMB Catch Can l QW FMIC l Autometer WB l Diablosport Predator
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#10
10-30-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
naw keeping it and gettn the ae85
yea theres actually 2 of em that are decent (5 technically toney has owned 3, one w a siulvertop one w a blacktop swap w itbs and like 180 WHP n/a. and then one w a 4agze, and taht guy is prob the best driver in this county then theres myron with his 4agze w highcomp pistons and no supercharger (hes running it n/a) and hes running 13's (you prob talkin bout this one or) myrons bro has one, he goes to vintage (not sure if this kids his bro tho only seen him once) and hes just starting to get it drift capable, this is the one u prob saw and tell bryan to call me soon, i wanna race him and film it and post it here, u guys should come out w us next time we go out, lol we made it from st helena taking oak knoll to napa in 12 minuts....its 16 miles on the twisties
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#11
10-31-2005, 03:12 AM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
I would say that the proportional weight of AE86 itself makes a great drifting car. But maybe if someone mod their FWD celica into RWD, it may have greater potential for the long run? To Cactuar; what is "initial D" all about? bc I keep seeing that over'n'over, yet never have the will to pick it up. Is it really over-rating the AE86? I saw a cover where its racing a GTR or RX-7 or something.
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#12
10-31-2005, 09:01 AM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
they did stick a 250hp 11K formula atlantic motor in it in the series. And when the car is modded the fuck out of it... eh I'll just wait for celica ST since he's the touge guy here.
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#13
10-31-2005, 03:51 PM
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Initial D is a anime, video game, etc. about drifting. The main character drives an ae86 so of course its going to be a little one sided, but overall the series is really informative and the video game is addicting as well.
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2005 Neon Stage 1 PCM l K&N CAI l Mopar rice plate l 3'' TBE l Spring mod l PB shift knob l Mopar strut bars F&R l ACR sways l Tokico Shocks/ Tein Springs l Ricey wing removal l JMB Catch Can l QW FMIC l Autometer WB l Diablosport Predator
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#14
10-31-2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
Yea it is addicting. I spent so much mony building up my GT4. I did have an MR2 but they're slow lol. Anyway....I'm nerdy and my fiance works in an arcade so....yea lol
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10-31-2005, 07:14 PM
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Re: AE86 vs. Celicas
^yea i play intial d all the time, actually i have the e-86 and the st-205
and yes corllas are awsome for drifiting when your just getting into the sport, but most poele that start with tem go onto bigger and better things like rx-7's
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