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Old 10-27-2005, 03:43 PM
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Cats and dogs

After seeing a cat dying due to a dog attack, I'm curious as to what others think about this.

Two kids were walking their dogs this morning, and they were unable to maintain control (or didn't want to, unfortunately we do have people like that around here) and they got hold of the cat. A neighbor broke them up, but the cat died soon after.

What do you think should be done about people who are unable to maintain control of their dogs? The way I see it, the kids should be held responsible and the dogs put down. If you are unable to maintain control of your pet, you really have no business having one. In my opinion, that falls under feeding and taking care of your pet. The kids ran off and haven't come back to apologize or explain what happened, taking absolutely no responsibility whatsoever.

Now, I realize many of you have dogs and many of you have cats, so please, no flamewars.
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Re: Cats and dogs

in the UK there are laws about this kinda thing, if a dog attacks someone and they're hurt badly the dog is put down, no fighting it, no appeal it's the law.

i think people should use muzzles, them things that go over the dog's nose an mouth, to stop them biting people an other animals, some dogs are actually illegal, like rotweilers, although my friend has one, i hate it.
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it's the owner, never the dog.

any dog can be the sweetest animal ever if it is raised to be that way. rotti's, doberman's, even pitbull's. but if they are raised in a way that would incite incidents like these, then yeah it's gonna happen. but IMO it is the owner's fault, and/or the person who raised/trained the dog.

so going by that, you can probably guess what i think about putting dogs down because of this.
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Old 10-27-2005, 03:55 PM
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Re: Cats and dogs

My dachshunds will attack any type of animal and there is nothing i can really do about it. I have a fenced in backyard(the dogs cannot get out through the fence). Whenever I take them for walks they are always on a short leash. And whenever I board them I always tell the people there that they will attack any animal that comes near it. So if my dogs were to kill another pet, I wouldn't like being told to put them to sleep. I do everything in my power to keep them away from other animals(including my other dog and cat) but if someones cat were to get into my backyard the dogs would kill it, and the way I see it, it would be the cat owners fault for letting the animal run wild. Your description of the situation sounds like these kids just didn't care, and let it happen. In that case they should have the dogs taken away. Peace-
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Re: Cats and dogs

yea, its not neccessairily the owned at all. my mates (three have dogs) have all raised their dogs as well as they can, one has an extremely violent rottweiler which with tear anything to shreds, including other animals. one has a well trained greman shepherd/alsatian which is not violent at all, unless it feels my friend is at risk, it is at risk or he orders it to attack.

so if someone tried to jack/mug him the dog would figure he's at risk an mawl the attacker.

my other mate has a collie, the dog is mad, runs around in circles an stuff, its not a violent dog yet it has a strange habit of chewing at my ankle, not anyone else's. and its not violent or anything, its playful but it likes to get its jaw around my ankle an start chewing, like i said mad.

see, its not the owners all the time. its the same with humans, you get murderers that commit horrific murders, yet have good backgrouds an up-bringings.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:10 PM
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Re: Cats and dogs

Was this cat just walking around the street or something???
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Re: Cats and dogs

you can't control what a dog is going to do. they just naturally chase after things. i have a spring spaniel which is a bird dog. she chases birds like no other. she also likes to try and chase cats. i always have her tied up though.

putting the animal down for something that the owners could not control is totally wrong. the owner should know better. especially since kids were walking. when you say kids i imagine like 7 year olds. i may be wrong though. but unless it's like a weiner dog or something a 7 yr old is gonna have problems controlling a big dog.
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Re: Cats and dogs

yea, we've had dogs put down here because they've mawled (sp?) small children, like a 6 year old or something that was vicously attacked by a dog a year or so back.

the dog's are put down, not because the owned did something wrong, but because the dog poses a risk to others.

you can get something like 5 years in prison for having an illegal dog, that might be only if it attacks someone. but it's considered a deadly weapon, not a pet.
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Re: Cats and dogs

it is the owners fault, i think the owners should be put down and the dogs should be fined
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That's a toss-up. One of my cats got killed by a dog about 2 months ago, and yeah, it sucked, but I can hardly blame a dog for being a dog. And, I didn't see it happen, so I'm not exactly sure how the neighbors dog got ahold of him, so I can't point a finger at them.

People are supposed to report things like this so that if a dog is a repeat offender, there will be consequences for the dog and/or owner, which I think is about the best way to go about things. Although each incident should be reviewed and judged individually.
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Re: Cats and dogs

I think this pales in comparison to another issue we have to worry about now-a-days.


Dogs that rape men on the side of highways.
This cats and dogs thing can wait.
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Re: Re: Cats and dogs

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I think this pales in comparison to another issue we have to worry about now-a-days.


Dogs that rape men on the side of highways.
This cats and dogs thing can wait.
i feel so ashamed, i live like 3 miles from that place...

not a great area overall, somone can probably tell you about hampstead heath in london, unfortunately its at the bottom of my garden.
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Re: Cats and dogs

We have a big problem in our area with dog attacks. Most of the time as it is reported in the news, the owner of the dog(s) incited them to attack, whether it was a neighbor, the mailman, or neighborhood animal. There are even reports of young kids taking their dogs for "a walk" in the neighborhood and telling them to attack any other cat or dog they come across. If the owner witnesses the incident, the dog(s) are then instructed to attack that person. THAT'S INSANE! Practically all of these occurences happen in the areas of the city that are populated with drug dealers, and is not a nice section of town. And most if not all of the dogs are pit bulls. The police arrest the owners and animal control usually takes the animals in question until the case is disposed of in the courts. I believe most are put down as they are deemed unadoptable due to their transgressions. I believe these owners should be arrested and their dog(s) taken away from them, and should be ordered to never own a dog again, because they don't know how to properly own a dog, and train it.
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Re: Cats and dogs

you think its bad having kids do that ? in Newport in England there's a huge problem with arson, shcools, houses anyhting even the forests.

the kids think its fun to pour petrol in the forest an start a huge fire, then when its put out they start it again !

i dont know what the world's coming to.
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Re: Cats and dogs

I think the owners should be put down and the dog moved to another family.
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