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Old 10-26-2005, 08:05 AM
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Question New GTP. DIES OUT????

I just bought a 2001 GTP and occationally when deaccelerating the engine dies. The previous owner put a cheap cold air intake (made from PVC pipe) that take air in from the fender. there was also a sub system in the trunck but he took that out and left the wiring, could he have messed up the electrical?

Please help, This is turning out to be a real pain in the butt.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:06 AM
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

How many miles on it? When the problem occurs do you lose any electrical such as instrument panel lights, etc.? Check your battery connections and the grounding.

Other symptoms or details may be helpful for people to weigh-in on your problem.








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3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.



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Old 10-26-2005, 11:19 AM
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There are 37,000 miles on it. When it dies no other instruments are off that i can see, but i am concentraiting on getting it started as fast as possible.

The car doesn't die out all the time, but when it does the engine seems to loose power until i give it a lot of throttle.
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:25 AM
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

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There are 37,000 miles on it. When it dies no other instruments are off that i can see, but i am concentraiting on getting it started as fast as possible.

The car doesn't die out all the time, but when it does the engine seems to loose power until i give it a lot of throttle.
Wow, 37K miles. Just out of bumper to bumper warranty?

Sounds like a possible fuel delivery problem. Has the fuel filter ever been replaced? Try it or get the fuel pressure at the fuel pressure regulator (FPR) tested. Range of 45 - 55 psi. Should be tested with the vacuum line to the FPR connected and disconnected.







Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.



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'02 Oldsmobile Alero GL2 - LA1 3400 V6
'99 Buick Regal LS - L36 Series II 3800 V6
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'97 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP - L67 Series II 3800 V6 Supercharged (Sold)
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:40 PM
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Well the check engine light just came on during lunch. Time to see what it says is wrong wiht my car.
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

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Well the check engine light just came on during lunch. Time to see what it says is wrong wiht my car.
Great! Get it scanned and let us know if you need any further assistance.









Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.



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'02 Oldsmobile Alero GL2 - LA1 3400 V6
'99 Buick Regal LS - L36 Series II 3800 V6
'03 Honda CR250R MX - 2 Stroke 250cc
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

If it happens while decelerating, do you think it could be a TCC solenoid Bob? At what speed does it try to stall?
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If it happens while decelerating, do you think it could be a TCC solenoid Bob? At what speed does it try to stall?
Anythings possibe Rich but he finally got a SES light. Maybe the codes will give us further insight.







Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.



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'02 Oldsmobile Alero GL2 - LA1 3400 V6
'99 Buick Regal LS - L36 Series II 3800 V6
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'97 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP - L67 Series II 3800 V6 Supercharged (Sold)
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The engine would cut out or run rough (if i caught it) at about 20 MPH, But i will see what the error code gives me.
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I got the error code last night. p0101 - MAF performance fault. Would this cause the problems that i described above and also surging during acceleration?
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

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I got the error code last night. p0101 - MAF performance fault. Would this cause the problems that i described above and also surging during acceleration?
Yes. Try cleaning it first. If not it will need to be replaced.

BTW - Use only electrical/electronics cleaner only.





Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.



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'02 Oldsmobile Alero GL2 - LA1 3400 V6
'99 Buick Regal LS - L36 Series II 3800 V6
'03 Honda CR250R MX - 2 Stroke 250cc
'97 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP - L67 Series II 3800 V6 Supercharged (Sold)
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:42 AM
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

I agree with Bnaylor, try cleaning the MAF with electronics parts cleaner. Do not use carb cleaner or you'll ruin it. If the previous owners cheap CAI includes a re-usable air filter element, there is a good chance excess oil from the filter mucked up you MAF.
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:46 AM
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Re: Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

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I agree with Bnaylor, try cleaning the MAF with electronics parts cleaner. Do not use carb cleaner or you'll ruin it. If the previous owners cheap CAI includes a re-usable air filter element, there is a good chance excess oil from the filter mucked up you MAF.
Hey Rich, can you give him a cost on the MAF sensor. Expensive little bugger. Thanks.







Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.



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'02 Oldsmobile Alero GL2 - LA1 3400 V6
'99 Buick Regal LS - L36 Series II 3800 V6
'03 Honda CR250R MX - 2 Stroke 250cc
'97 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP - L67 Series II 3800 V6 Supercharged (Sold)
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

Gladly Bob, AC-Delco part # 213-1617, runs $129.99 plus a $60 core deposit for the old one.
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Re: New GTP. DIES OUT????

Where can i get that cleaner at?
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