Replace Turbocharger in 95 talon

[Missile95tsi]

Hello!

Looking to replace turbocharger and exhaust in a 95 Talon Tsi FWD. I guess I am looking for ideas on what to get,where to look,prices,etc?? Love the car just needs new turbo and exhaust?? Looking to spend 10,000 dollars or less??

Thanks for your time,
missile95tsi

[Thor06]

I'd hit eBay and local junk yards for another t25. If you want more power, it all depends depending on how much power you want. You will need supporting mods before a bigger turbo.

[Talont28]

Originally Posted by Thor06

I'd hit eBay and local junk yards for another t25. If you want more power, it all depends depending on how much power you want. You will need supporting mods before a bigger turbo.

im going to half to disagree i would put a 14b (came stock in 1g's you would need a j pipe if you went this route..) in your car b4 going w/ a t2small agian.... but the supporting mods is correct...

honestly it depending on what you want your car to do....
if you want it to look stock but more power go w/ a T-28 forced perfomance sells one of them most powerfull t28's for about $800 flows about 550cfm
www.forcedperformance.net

if you would like to go w/ somthing a little more powerfull go w/ a evo III big 16g stock bolt up for 1g's so you would need a j pipe but its probably the most popular upgrade... you can bolt these up with as little mods such as a mbc and a boost gauge you can run them at 15 psi w/ no problems...if you want to crank it up of course you will need fuel upgrades....you can find the 16g's about any where slowboy is where i would start if you went that route...

As for exhuast ur 2 manifold will be fine...id go probably w/ apexi's n1 exhuast its about 700 but its nice and easy to install and sounds good..
or you can go to ur local advance or auto zone and buy mandral bends and build your own also www.roadraceengineering.com sells pieces also

hope it helps

Jesse

[DragonofBC]

It all depends on what you are looking to do with the car. When you say you want to replace the turbo and exhaust, do you mean that you want to upgrade or strictly go stock for stock? You can definitely go both routes for less than $2k let alone $10k.

Tell us what your goals are for your car and I'm sure at least 58 people will be able to help get you there. Without knowing what you want from your car, we're all just going to suggest the route we took with ours.

Also, do you do work on your car yourself or will you be taking it to a mechanic to get the work done? That's a big factor in how pricy your goals will be.

[l_eclipse_l]

Personally, I would steer away from Ebay when it comes to turbos. Too many bad stories about them not lasting, horrible quality, etc.

There are a ton of places that specialize in DSM parts and whatnot. Check the FAQ, that will give you a guide as to what your lookin at for prices and where to buy.

[Missile95tsi]

Originally Posted by DragonofBC

It all depends on what you are looking to do with the car. When you say you want to replace the turbo and exhaust, do you mean that you want to upgrade or strictly go stock for stock? You can definitely go both routes for less than $2k let alone $10k.

Tell us what your goals are for your car and I'm sure at least 58 people will be able to help get you there. Without knowing what you want from your car, we're all just going to suggest the route we took with ours.

Also, do you do work on your car yourself or will you be taking it to a mechanic to get the work done? That's a big factor in how pricy your goals will be.

Thanks for taking the time to write back!!
When I said 10k that was just something to get the ball rolling. My Talons motor was rebuilt in 2001. The motor was rebuilt .030, So I've already put some money into it. To make along story short turbo went out in July, so it's just been sitting around. It's time to get the missile running again!!!

I was told before coming into this forum that the Garrett T28 would work well?? T25 or T28 is what Iam looking at now just because thats all I know about?? T25 is what is in it now. I LOVE to drive CARS, but can't FIX THEM. My Dad does the work and I help. We do what work we can ourselves. Would like to have the car running before Thanksgiving??

Thanks I_eclipse_I, DragonofBC, Talont28 and Thor06. I hope this gives everyone alittle bit more info. I will have pictures in hte near future. Hope to hear from everyone.
I am a Heating and Air Conditioning Installer, so I don't get to my computer until after 4:30 central time

[Shpyder]

Originally Posted by Missile95tsi

I was told before coming into this forum that the Garrett T28 would work well?? T25 or T28 is what Iam looking at now just because thats all I know about??

The small or regular T-28 shares the same housing as the stock T-25, with a slightly larger compressor wheel. The small housing is a limiting factor to the turbos power. You want to be able to push more air at less boost, not the other way round. I had the small T-28 for a while, it's nothing special. I highly recommend going with an EvoIII16G with a full install kit. It's potential, performance and limitations have been vastly documented in the DSM community on many forums. Lets just say that you wont be shooting in the dark with this one. Comes with all the power you want, not a bit more than what you dont need.

As mentioned in another post above, buy a turbo and kit from recognized vendors like SBR, RRE, etc.

[Talont28]

Originally Posted by Shpyder

The small or regular T-28 shares the same housing as the stock T-25, with a slightly larger compressor wheel. The small housing is a limiting factor to the turbos power. You want to be able to push more air at less boost, not the other way round. I had the small T-28 for a while, it's nothing special. I highly recommend going with an EvoIII16G with a full install kit. It's potential, performance and limitations have been vastly documented in the DSM community on many forums. Lets just say that you wont be shooting in the dark with this one. Comes with all the power you want, not a bit more than what you dont need.

As mentioned in another post above, buy a turbo and kit from recognized vendors like SBR, RRE, etc.

id agree w/ the evo III if you want to spend the extra money on an install kit..but if you have 10k id go 4 it...but if not an fp t-28 is a geat and save you another 150 bucks...

by the way there t28 ran a 11.82

Jesse

[Shpyder]

Originally Posted by Talont28

id agree w/ the evo III if you want to spend the extra money on an install kit..but if you have 10k id go 4 it...but if not an fp t-28 is a geat and save you another 150 bucks...

by the way there t28 ran a 11.82

Jesse

Well, there are various kinds of T-28s...the one that's a direct bolt and shares the factory housing is the "small" T-28. The Big or KILLER T-28s have a larger housing and require an adapter kit. Which is a little more expensive than the evoIII with install kit. I think..

[Talont28]

Originally Posted by Shpyder

Well, there are various kinds of T-28s...the one that's a direct bolt and shares the factory housing is the "small" T-28. The Big or KILLER T-28s have a larger housing and require an adapter kit. Which is a little more expensive than the evoIII with install kit. I think..

fp t28...for forced performance's t28...they only make one

http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...Code=DSM-Turbo


by the way looks like there having a sale on the evo III 540 bucks

[Talont28]

Originally Posted by Shpyder

Well, there are various kinds of T-28s...the one that's a direct bolt and shares the factory housing is the "small" T-28. The Big or KILLER T-28s have a larger housing and require an adapter kit. Which is a little more expensive than the evoIII with install kit. I think..

fp t28...for forced performance's t28...they only make one
and all t28 are in a t25 housing..thas why there are direct bolt up for 2g's the t28 by fp uses a bigger compressor fan..but an evo 3 exhuast housing...so you get the quick spool w/ all the power

hope it helps Jesse

here is a link to there t28
http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...Code=DSM-Turbo


by the way looks like there having a sale on the evo III 540 bucks

[DragonofBC]

I researched for a while before deciding to go with an Evo16g. I orginally wanted to go 14B but a few crappy circumstances later, I had a 16g in my hands.

All said and done I did the Evo16g (ported and 34mm flapper mod) for about $850 including the price of having all the parts I ordered from SBR overnighted. I pieced together my own install kit (used j-pipe, SBR SS oil line, filing the T-25 oil return line, hacking my LICP to fit using an 11" piece of exhaust pipe to bridge the gap, all new gaskets, reused the water pipes, and a new lower radiator hose).

The important thing is to know what you want, and know what it takes to get there. Neither the T28 nor the Evo16g is going to be any better than the T25 unless you get the supporting mods. With a stock exhaust and stock rewired fuel pump, I can't go higher than about 12psi before I start to see dips in timing (via pocketlogger). My car feels only slightly faster than before. That is until I get the fuel pump sitting on my desk installed .

If you aren't willing to make the commitment to getting all of the supporting mods, the absolute cheapest turbo route would be to find a used T-25 in good shape. People have run mid to high 13s on a maxed out T-25. The next cheapest would be to get a used 14B in decent shape (about $150-$200). You'd have to piece together the same install kit as you would for the Evo16g but that turbo can take you into the 12s with the right mods.

[Talon69]

I would go with the evo3 big 16g if your going new. You can find them for $550

[2of9]

i like that forcedperformance.com place, seems like really nice deals

[Missile95tsi]

Originally Posted by Talon69

I would go with the evo3 big 16g if your going new. You can find them for $550

Thanks onces again everyone!!

I am going to go with the EVO3 big 16g. Why? Well after reading all the posts and a few magazines it just seems better. However, I still like the big t28? Because of the install.

Now that I have the turbo on the right path. I still need help with the exhaust. I don't want my car to sound like a motorcycle.. I am 26 years old. I am not a high school kid anymore! HAHAHA.

Also remember once the MISSILE gets going again I will be driving it everyday. Alot of the pic I see hear the cars look GREAT!! I live in Iowa so, when Winter and Spring come around the roads are a mess.. I can tell that everybody takes alot of PRIDE in making your cars look great. Thats why all of your replys mean alot.

Thanks again
Cory C.