stupid a$$ question

[nimitz23ky]

i know this is going to be a really stupis ass question, but i am going to ask it anyhow....what is the difference, if any for an intake made for 95-99 neon with AT/MT tranny's...? if i get a MT for my AT will it still work? like i said, i am going to get beat down for this question....but, i would like to know the difference. i do have an rs akimoto intake, but want something different....not liking the rs any longer....

and another question. i have a hahn racecraft stage 2 turbo with intercooler already installed. how hard would it be, if at all possible to add another one to it. the fabrication part, i can do that. certified welder...worked in a machine shop from graduation in 97, until just a few months ago. had to move for my other job, so.....just, if you think it could be done, without detonation, let me know. even if it detonates, it would still be alright. can rebuild, this time even stronger....
current mods include:
ur udp
crane cams camshaft
crane cams valve spring/retainer set
aem adj. cam gear
mopar performance pcm
arp main studs
eagle h-beam connecting rods
obx throttle body spacer..(seems kinda worthless, but it was just 5.00 off ebay.)
walbro 255 lph fuel pump
30lb injectors
msd ignition
msd coil
nology wires
nology plugs
apexi turbo timer
apexi super afc II
egr block-off plate
straight-through flow design cat
driveshaftsop stage III axles
je pistons
sfi approved flexplate
indy intake manufold
high performance valve boby kit
obx limited slip diffrential
mpx 3" turbo muffler
mpx blue throttle body
high performance tranny kit
moroso oil pan
and a few other odds and ends for suspension...yeah, i know. alot of money to spend on a 96. i could have bought an SRT-4 and built it up a bit, but no....had to build this one first. maybe later....but, if you think the twin turbo design could work, let me know....it would be helpful

[das2123]

Originally Posted by nimitz23ky

what is the difference, if any for an intake made for 95-99 neon with AT/MT tranny's...? if i get a MT for my AT will it still work?

There is no real difference. The only difference I know of is with the Iceman, but the tube just needs to be cut to fit.

Originally Posted by nimitz23ky

i have a hahn racecraft stage 2 turbo with intercooler already installed.

How are you running an aftermarket intake with your turbo setup? Do you have any pic's of your engine setup?

[nimitz23ky]

the intake was coming straight off the turbo, until i went to the intercooler. i just got it in. cost was outrageous, but it was worth it, i suppose. for the winter, i want to take the turbo off, because i have an itchy trigger finger and just know that spot of ice out there will have my name on it. so, i was wanting to know if it is possible to just run an intake for a MT on my AT.....normally i would not attempt to pull the turbo off, but part of me wants to see next spring too. just know i will kill myself with it....really bad winters here....no pics uploaded just yet. only get a few hours off from each job, and i don't like spending them all on here. will get them soon, though....so please, just hold your horses or whatever it is you want to hold.....will be uploaded soon

[nimitz23ky]

to clarify the intercooler, cold air intake crap....the intercooler was supposed to have arrived and been installed by the time i got back from a trip....but, needless to say, it was not...just installed it today. i took a buisiness trip, the people helping with the car took thier own trip...intercooler is on now...and here i am going to take it all back off. but still, just wanted to know about. should have posted it in the first place, but just forgot about it...although, which is better? nos or turbo?

[das2123]

Originally Posted by nimitz23ky

which is better? nos or turbo?

Define better...NOS is cheaper and a better bang for your buck, but you will have to refill the tank. You also don't have as many things to add. A turbo has to be installed with many parts, tuned, dyno'd, and other things but when it is all done, you are done!

[nimitz23ky]

to define better......which is better for more HP? nos or turbo....i know i do risk certain detontation factors with a turbo, and the same for nos....but, i just want to know which is better for more HP....can i run both? or, do i then pose the risk of a major detonation the first time i hit them both at the same time.....back to the itchy trigger finger thing...i like buttons. i like to push them, when i know i should not. too many times when there was a shark right beside me....i mean i know you can have a super and nos runnng off one engine, but then again a super and a turbo are two totally different setups as well...i mean, my turbo looks so small compared to the super on my lil brothers camaro....but then again, his has a nice 5.7L, and mine just a 2.0L....big difference, but.....just thought i would ask. everyone seems very helpful here, so i figure i can ask just about anything....do want to say thanx for the air intake ? though.....

[das2123]

Well if you believe the numbers, the Hahn Stage II kit puts out around 250-275HP at the crank for around $3000. A Basic EFI Nitrous kit. Comes with 35, 50 and 75 horse power jets for around $580. So on a stock DOHCX MTX neon if you were to use the 75 HP jet you would be around 225HP at the crank. Looks like NOS is just as effective and alot cheaper.

And yes, you can run a turbo with nitrous. Do some studying and research. Nitrous is much safer nowadays than in the past.

[nimitz23ky]

thnx for the tip, das....i know nos is alot safer then in the past. seen a few cars completely destroyed from the old setups. sometimes i still wonder about it, but....yeah, and i do kinda see the numbers from the turbo. not quite what they said, but if the boost is high enough, it starts getting close to the point of said numbers. i will look around, do alot of research before i even attempt to run nos with the turbo...don't want to do something, and kill myself the first time. just something i like, i guess. all the shinny buttons....

[das2123]

Originally Posted by nimitz23ky

yeah, and i do kinda see the numbers from the turbo. not quite what they said, but if the boost is high enough, it starts getting close to the point of said numbers.

I forgot to mention that is on 8 PSI. Turn up the PSI and you would see more. But then you get into rods, rings, pistons and other expensive stuff.

[nimitz23ky]

i've already got all the rods & pistons for it. i used JE 8.8:1 pistons .020, JE piston ring set, and Eagle H-Beam rods....i still just run it at arond 8psi....not too sure about the setup, and sometimes, since i already have all this money invested into it, afraid to tear it up...but, i suppose that is just one of the cons to building such an elaborate car...all good things must come to an end....maybe if i do turn up the boost, but then, do i need higher compression pistons or not?

[das2123]

Originally Posted by nimitz23ky

maybe if i do turn up the boost, but then, do i need higher compression pistons or not?

You shoule be good with your pistons. IIRC those are the turbo pistons right?

[nimitz23ky]

yeah, they are the 8.8:1 turbo pistons. got them from modernperformance.com.....and so i tried to turn the boost up. had it close to 22psi...and i know it is just a little 4cyl.....but still, it was able to make think twice. it can handle it. so, not too worried about that. and yeah, those numbers were somewhere way back there. had quite a bit of power....still would be cool to dump it like that with a small NOS kit on it, though...i was thinking maybe a 35-70hp kit....nothing real elaborate, but a small does, just to see what it is capable of....probably scare the hell out of me, but hey, that's why we build them, huh?

[das2123]

Originally Posted by nimitz23ky

but hey, that's why we build them, huh?

You should be OK with a 50 shot. Just don't overdo it!

[nimitz23ky]

thanx for the help with this, das...local shop hooked it all up, with me watching everything of course. do not trust people with my shit...but, it is running from a 35 shot...really moves the car good. like it, and will probably keep it there. had to move the buttons for it all, though....wanted to let them both fly at the same time, tried it once...nice show....turbo running at 22psi, and nos at 35 shot...really put on a good show...have a set of 18" RVM Bomb wheels on it, with spinners. all of it together made the wheels turn, and when stopped, the spinners barely moved...getting ready to put in up for the winter, and let loose with the TSi AWD...it is a good car, but nothing like the neon...need another neon, i think....? but, just wanted to say thanx for the help. anything i find i need to ask, i will look you up, if that aight....

[das2123]

Originally Posted by nimitz23ky

thanx for the help with this, das...local shop hooked it all up, with me watching everything of course. do not trust people with my shit...but, it is running from a 35 shot...really moves the car good. like it, and will probably keep it there. had to move the buttons for it all, though....wanted to let them both fly at the same time, tried it once...nice show....turbo running at 22psi, and nos at 35 shot...really put on a good show...have a set of 18" RVM Bomb wheels on it, with spinners. all of it together made the wheels turn, and when stopped, the spinners barely moved...getting ready to put in up for the winter, and let loose with the TSi AWD...it is a good car, but nothing like the neon...need another neon, i think....? but, just wanted to say thanx for the help. anything i find i need to ask, i will look you up, if that aight....

Glad you got everything hooked up and hey that's what I'm here for, to help! You'd pick up some better acceleration if you lost those 18's and went to 15's. Something to think about, if you ever hit the track with it.