you think YOUR garage is nice???

[D-Bo]

http://www.ultimategarage.com/UltGar2y.htm

[LT1-Power]

that dude is a tool... a circular table to make cars easier to park, isn't that what steering wheels are for? maybe im just dumb.. but I park a shitload of cars and trucks in tight spaces at work all day and I have no problem with it. Besides how tight is he going to make it, I hope that dumbass pulls in so many of his leased badass cars that he can't open up the door to get out on the last one he parks for being a moron.

I love the F40.... F40 ownz everything, that is like the pimpest ride there is from a factory. If I was a millionaire... F40 would be my european supercar for sure!

F40>Enzo>F50>Dino

kinda funny he has all the expensive shit and its never used. All the tools are in trays and all shiny, nothing looks like its ever been touched... its an all show garage...no go. Plus if I had a lot of money, company owner or not, my shit would be filled with Snap-on and MAC tools, I haven't come across better tools yet. Who wants to round off a fastener on a f'n ferrari? I guess if it was your ferrari you would have the money to buy some new fasteners from your mistakes though.

[D-Bo]

THAT dude is a tool?? are you blind or did you miss the ferrari engine he had out?? clean, shiny tools?? yeah, cause he cleans them like every mechanic should.. maybe more than most but whats wrong with that? and whats wrong with organization? and you talk about all his 'leased' cars then go on to say "well if i had a billion dollars..." for some odd reason, i don't think this guy is leasing all those cars. if he can afford to have them all and insure them all, not to mention work on them in a garage like the one he has, he's probably got a few dollars in his bank account.
all show garage? are you calling him a ricer mechanic?? he does use it but it IS also for show. i think the rotating thing is so hollywood. i wouldn't be surprised if we saw his house in a movie.
i was expecting a little more intelligence out of you

[LT1-Power]

dude I am a professional mechanic

that guy is DEFINTELY a "ricer mechanic"

good term BTW

you go through any mechanics tool box or work cart at my shop and everything is a mess, your lucky to have a good enough day when everything is put back properly

90% of our tools would be dirty, the other 10 we don't use often LOL

[Chuki_breath]

i can vouge for that. No one cleans there tools lol. Visit a body shop..... Like he does anyways....prolly his servants do just cuz he's rich as shit.

But i wouldnt call him a ricer mechanic. he has money and he uses it. We all would.

[R.W.240]

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

dude I am a professional mechanic

Hey! No Shit? because you only say that every 10 posts.

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

you go through any mechanics tool box or work cart at my shop and everything is a mess, your lucky to have a good enough day when everything is put back properly

90% of our tools would be dirty, the other 10 we don't use often LOL

Uhh... Your fucking stupid.

have you ever seen pictures of the inside of an ALMS work shop? or even a high dollar SCCA team? Everything is Immaculate and in place. why? because everything goes smoother when things are in their place and not greasy as shit. Just because Joe's Tranny shop in Po-Dunk Flordia doesnt keep their shit clean doesnt mean good mechanics have to.

[nissanfanatic]

Yea, my tools are a mess. And I have to look for them constantly..

If I was rich, I would just want a complete box with a place for everything and a LOT of table space. One thing you can never have too much of. Well shit, I'd just like a real lift. Just one that lifts from each side of the vehicle would do.

Oh, and I want more rags! Every one is dirty somehow. And you get the shitty ones sometimes that leave fiber everywhere so they are useless for anything remotely precise.

And Fuck a servant. I'm doing everything with a few select friends.

[R.W.240]

Now that thats out of the way...


That garage is nice as hell even though it is a showroom garage (some of the ammenitys are kinda wack).

TV above the dyno? err... FAIL.
Sissypants wood working sectioin... FAIL

I'd like to have a toned down version of that someday over the rainbow though.

[nissanfanatic]

Who else wants air conditioning in their shop?

[LT1-Power]

thats because there so high dollar they don't have anything better to do with their tools then clean, polish them, and put them in proper place instead of using them.

and dude, those guys aren't the best mechanics in the world. You really are out of touch with reality about working on cars, seriously man im not just saying that to bust your chops. You think every ma and pah mechanic shop are backwoods hillbillies with no education who can't do anything right. You got every part right besides the accomplishments part. The reality of it is, we have to work on a variety of cars, I have to know about 20 transmissions when they only have 1 to work on. I have to know how to work on them and take it all apart, which each one is different, and they work on just one. An educated person in the automotive field would say the person with the broader experience is the better mechanic.

Seen pictures? Dude i've been to more automotive places then you've seen pictures of. I've been around this my ENTIRE life, I can remeber taking apart a corvette transmission when I was 9 with the help of my dad lol. Seen pictures of race shops? How about actually being at numerous ones and knowing the mechanics.. I know a few tuner shops as well that are VERY high end professional, and they are the same as our shop. Lots of dirty tools and lots of parts and equiptment laying around cluttering stuff up, because thats just shit you need and use to ACTUALLY get shit done and work on cars. If you were really in the shit you would know the real deal.... just like the corvette transmission R.W..............

That garage that dude has is probably for some faggy TV makeover show or house show... that is completely show off rice and no go.

[R.W.240]

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

If you were really in the shit you would know the real deal.... just like the corvette transmission R.W..............

Yeah... I just just bow to you right now...

It would be so fun to search for Air Conditioning Vacuum lines on my 240.

I could think that The KA head is better than the SRs on the Basis that the RB uses the same Cam on Bucket Setup.

And I would save so much money thinking that shocks and springs are better than coilovers.

I could tell people that square sidewalls belong in the trash and to put a 275 on an 8J Rim. and then post pics of my wrecked car to show how awsome it is.

I could think that the LT1 is gods gift to man because damnit, LT1 Power thinks so and hes a mechanic.














Quit acting like your the end all of the mechanic world just becuase you passed the SAE test and can look up diagrams on the shop computer.

Its not so much that I think your untalented or unknowledgeable. Its just every time someone comes in with something different than what you like you get all fucking high and mighty and say "blah blah I work in a shop so I know more than anyone on an ALMS team."

Good Teams get their shit dirty too. the difference is they clean it and put it back where it belongs. you act like your the only one here thats been in a shop. uhh no. Ive seen plenty of grassroots guys with their orignally badass toolsets with mix and match bullshit, and dirty, rusted, gunked up crap tools all over it.


Once again, I know how it is. my shits not pristine either, but Im not the one trashing on the people that do it right.

[LT1-Power]

Originally Posted by R.W.240

I could think that The KA head is better than the SRs on the Basis that the RB uses the same Cam on Bucket Setup.

I just wonder why you think the SR head is so marvelous? And lets not jerk me off with flow numbers, because that is pretty irrelevant actually. See when I see something I like, its not because it has these badass stats, I base my choices on design.

How good do things work, hold up, how could it be improved. What parts are weak, prone to failure, or catostrophic damage. Is it easy to work on and use quality parts and sealing systems.

The SR head is not without its fair share of problems, there are even aftermarket parts to put a lil band aid on the valvetrain. The Camshafts on that engine suck, I just don't like them to be honest with you. First off there are no bearings, this go against my rules here, it is not easily serviceable, it is prone to failure....... That shit sucks man, you would really think they would get with it on the SR series motors. Then there are the rocker arms. Now these almost work like that ancient old technology pushrod v8 shit you guys hate. The only real difference in the operation is the pushrod engine has the pushrod being moved by the cam which moves the rocker. The SR20 just has the cam right on the rocker, eliminating the pushrod piece.

But I think it gets worse. Besides having no cam bearings, you now have cams up high on the engine, making a higher center of gravity, and on a v engine a much wider less compact, heavier engine. More oil has to be supplied higher in the engine to lubricate the higher friction and heat up by the combustion chambers. This leads me to one other problem. With the same rocker action and valve movement as a pushrod v8 sbc that sucks with all these new technology import fanatics.... you now have to power those cams. This requires a more massive, longer chain that is also put against tensioners. This creates more drag on the crankshaft then a sbc timing set. So those cams have some problems and drawbacks for something that really isn't even primo. And that is just the mechanical operation of the heads, something I personally consider important, maybe you don't.

It is also a good idea to run metal headgaskets on SR's... lol

I really do not think they are a tank of an engine that lasts forever. Many don't have a lot of miles from japan, or get a lot in the states. Many of them get rebuilt as soon as being put in or soon on down the line. Many blow up. They really don't last long, I consider long 250,000+ miles... They usually reply it is because of the turbocharger, then why use a turbo? So why not use an engine with more power, less stress, better reliabilty, better durability, can easily last 250-300k+ miles, and if you want to get serious, is stronger and will make more power.

Thats how I look at things R.W., thats why I like sbc's. I look at it from a mechanical operation point of view. Im not some domestic asshole who always pisses on ricers and grew up in the hills of west virginia... I don't hate a honda just because its japanese, I just like that engine. I don't like small block fords or mopars nearly as much. Now just because I like an engine that doesn't fit into the normal category for the import crew I can't like and drive 240sx's? I can't have anything to do with 240sx's? I can't talk about 240sx's and all things relevant to them, and believe me v8's are very relevant to 240sx's. Just wait for some high roller to make up a badass v8 powered 240sx. I don't think its going to be my job. Wait wil they put a nice mild 350hp or so LS-1 that will run forever everyday with nice deep wide wheels and tires, good coilovers, big brakes, chassis mods, suspension mods, LSD... wait til somebody takes a machine like that to a competition and some magazines cover it. I promise it will break many people's hearts. Some people just won't like it because it might be a little better then theres and its not so kosher. People have done this in other smaller imported cars with GREAT succes. That leads me to a conclusion a setup like that makes a 240sx fast as fuck around a race track and pretty f'n badass in my eyes. The eyes of a 240sx enthusiast.

If you don't think that shit belongs here, take your computer, and toss it into a body of water. It has just as much right here as talk of a sr20det or rb engine does. Anyone who says otherwise is an unfair asshole PERIOD

P.S. here is your kleenex

[LT1-Power]

also go ahead R.W. take each little line apart in a quote and try to find something wrong with it or that you can make fun of. Keep on being an asshole, maybe once u could just read something, think about it, absorb the material, and go on about your day without calling someone "fucking stupid" especially someone with half-way decent grammar and writing ability besides all else. The only thing that gets you, is being "fucking stupid" yourself buddy. Think about that one.

[NissanElitist]

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

I just wonder why you think the SR head is so marvelous? And lets not jerk me off with flow numbers, because that is pretty irrelevant actually. See when I see something I like, its not because it has these badass stats, I base my choices on design.

If you based your choices of design then you could see why a group of engineers designed the head the way they did, but I guess thats why mechanics don't design engines.

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

The SR head is not without its fair share of problems, there are even aftermarket parts to put a lil band aid on the valvetrain. The Camshafts on that engine suck, I just don't like them to be honest with you. First off there are no bearings, this go against my rules here, it is not easily serviceable, it is prone to failure....... That shit sucks man, you would really think they would get with it on the SR series motors. Then there are the rocker arms. Now these almost work like that ancient old technology pushrod v8 shit you guys hate. The only real difference in the operation is the pushrod engine has the pushrod being moved by the cam which moves the rocker. The SR20 just has the cam right on the rocker, eliminating the pushrod piece.

You've got to be kidding me.

The SR doesn't need cam journal bearings, it has micropolished cam journals with steel camshafts in an aluminum head and the cam floats on an oil film. The RB26 engine sees upwards of 12000 RPM in drag applications without the usage of bearings. The KA doesn't even have bearings, neither does the VG, in fact, I can't think of one damn Nissan engine produced since the 80's that does have them.

The camshafts do not suck. Perhaps if you opened a physics book once in a while you will notice that the lobe design is wide to avoid hotspotting the rocker arm, and has the side benefit of reducing peak friction. The design is inheriantly tons more effective mechanically than the cam over bucket design in the KA. Simplistic? no, effective, yes.

Who cares if it's similar to the pushrod. Valve actuation isn't exactly rocket science.

The benefit to the SR's head over the KA's is that it can run a MUCH larger camshaft, and supports greater amounts of head flow via porting due to the port design (high port, long port) which reduces stagnation flows and produces excellent midrange and top end inlet mach numbers. Wonder why the KA can't hold a tall cam? It's because of it's cam over bucket design. The cam swept area is set, and the only way to increase that area is to machine the head for oversized buckets, and custom milled shims.

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

But I think it gets worse. Besides having no cam bearings, you now have cams up high on the engine, making a higher center of gravity, and on a v engine a much wider less compact, heavier engine. More oil has to be supplied higher in the engine to lubricate the higher friction and heat up by the combustion chambers. This leads me to one other problem. With the same rocker action and valve movement as a pushrod v8 sbc that sucks with all these new technology import fanatics.... you now have to power those cams. This requires a more massive, longer chain that is also put against tensioners. This creates more drag on the crankshaft then a sbc timing set. So those cams have some problems and drawbacks for something that really isn't even primo. And that is just the mechanical operation of the heads, something I personally consider important, maybe you don't.

LOL you are so picky about 15 lbs. of camshaft weight. How about we take a peak at your car. I bet I could put out a laundry list of shit that is hindering the handling performance (if you can even call it that) of your car. That is the most tinkerbell arguement I have ever heard lol.

The SR has a single chain that is lubricated, the KA has a twin chain that is lubricated. Gee I wonder which is less likely to produce friction. In fact, the SR chain more than likely has the same surface area of a V8 timing set, with only a few more contact points.

What about the windage, rotational inertia, main drag associated with a half countered crank, piston ring drag associated with twice the pistons. The V8 is a HORRIBLE place to start if you are talking about friction based losses. Good lord, what were you thinking when you thought to compare the two?

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

It is also a good idea to run metal headgaskets on SR's... lol

Lemme guess, your name is Confucious?

It's a good idea to run metal headgaskets on any engine that produces any respectable level of cylinder pressure.

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

I really do not think they are a tank of an engine that lasts forever. Many don't have a lot of miles from japan, or get a lot in the states. Many of them get rebuilt as soon as being put in or soon on down the line. Many blow up. They really don't last long, I consider long 250,000+ miles... They usually reply it is because of the turbocharger, then why use a turbo? So why not use an engine with more power, less stress, better reliabilty, better durability, can easily last 250-300k+ miles, and if you want to get serious, is stronger and will make more power.

You're right.

Sell your V8 for a turbo diesel Mercedes.

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

Thats how I look at things R.W., thats why I like sbc's. I look at it from a mechanical operation point of view. Im not some domestic asshole who always pisses on ricers and grew up in the hills of west virginia... I don't hate a honda just because its japanese, I just like that engine. I don't like small block fords or mopars nearly as much. Now just because I like an engine that doesn't fit into the normal category for the import crew I can't like and drive 240sx's? I can't have anything to do with 240sx's? I can't talk about 240sx's and all things relevant to them, and believe me v8's are very relevant to 240sx's. Just wait for some high roller to make up a badass v8 powered 240sx. I don't think its going to be my job. Wait wil they put a nice mild 350hp or so LS-1 that will run forever everyday with nice deep wide wheels and tires, good coilovers, big brakes, chassis mods, suspension mods, LSD... wait til somebody takes a machine like that to a competition and some magazines cover it. I promise it will break many people's hearts. Some people just won't like it because it might be a little better then theres and its not so kosher. People have done this in other smaller imported cars with GREAT succes. That leads me to a conclusion a setup like that makes a 240sx fast as fuck around a race track and pretty f'n badass in my eyes. The eyes of a 240sx enthusiast.

People have built V8 240s, hell I've known 2 here locally, and I worked on an S14 with an LT1. The fastest I've seen one go was 10.70's. Thats fast, but the car is nothing but a drag car (9" solid rear end, 408cid SBC, heads / cam, no alternator, etc.).

The LT1 car handles like shit, and never will handle well.

The limitations of the S-chassis in a road racing trim pretty much make a V8 a very give and take situation. You add weight to the car, and in the worse spot on the car. If you don't believe me, then buy a 240 and you'll soon find out.

[NissanElitist]

Originally Posted by LT1-Power

If you were really in the shit you would know the real deal.... just like the corvette transmission R.W..............

Since when is working in the automotive industry Vietnam?

When customers walk back to your work area do you scream "Charlie's in the wire!"