SS/SC Vs. Integra Type R

[BullDog71ss]

While heading to the Pavs (AZ guys know what I'm talking about) last Sat. I ended up at a light with a Yellow 1998 Integra Type R. I'm pretty sure I've seen the same car around and I'd wondered what they could do. I hopped on the hohokom expressway and he pulls up next to me. At this point I was on the phone with an SRT-4 buddy of mine that I was meeting at the Pavs. I told him there was a Type R next to me that looked like it wanted to race since it was doing about 4k revs @ 50 mph right next to me. My buddy told me not to mess with it cause it would kick my ass, so of course curiosity got the best of me and I told me buddy I had to go, then I threw my phone on the passenger seat.

I was in 3rd at around 50 mph or so which isn't the best spot in the SS's powerband, but good enough. He made the first move and got a bit of a head start and I followed suit. I reeled him in in a couple of seconds and at the end of third I was a bus ahead or so(didnt bother with 4th cause it was a bad enough beating). After the run I called my buddy back and told him the results and he was surprised. I raced the dude a couple more times in third while talking to my buddy on the phone and after about 2 or 3 more runs the kid had had enough and just paced behind me for a while.

I looked up the specs on those cars and it seems that they have around 190 BHP@7200 rpms. It's no wonder he got wasted. The car also had an exhaust of some sort but other than that I can't say. I'd imagine he at least had a CAI as well. Very clean, nice looking car, but not enough to hang.

I also ran my buddies modded SRT-4 on the highway later that night and from 60-100 I put a bus length on him. He called me and said he thinks he's got a boost leak since he was maxing 14lbs of boost instead of his usual 18lbs or so. So I told him to get his damn Dodge fixed so we can have a real run. What the hell would come undone to leak that boost though..a vacuum line of some sort?

[CivRacer95]

About your last question, but still very nice races. I've seen two yellow Type R's in this area of Utah. One boosted, and the other, not. But that boosted one screams like a mean mother. I've never heard anything like it. Made a stock 03 Cobra look like shit.

I plan on actually picking up a Sartie in the near future when I head back east. I'm looking to buy an ACR model. Yep, but I won't hijack the thread. I'll make on later this week. Good kills mang.

[clawhammer]

I doubt that it's a real type-r. Probably a LS rebadged.
The type-r is 195 (200+ with mods) and 2550 lb.
Your car is 205 hp and 2900 lb.

[street_racer_00]

Agreed, the Type R shoulda put up a hell of a fight driven correctly...maybe the guy kept missing shifts or was just an LS badged as a type R, I dunno...they run like mid 14's stock.

[Igovert500]

Boost leaks can occur at any part of the pressurized system, vac lines, intercooler/intake pipes, plenum gaskets, BOVs, anywhere really. They overwork your turbos and rob hp, so it is a good idea to pressure test and fix them every so often.

[Habibus]

What all does your friend have done to his SRT-4? 14 lbs of boost is stock. I still don't see you putting a buslength on a modded SRT-4 running stock boost. A stock SRT-4 will walk a Cobalt SS. Sounds like your buddy's SRT-4 has more wrong with it than a boost leak.

[2000LS1Z28]

Dunno why everyone thinks Type R's are soo fast. They are a low 15 sec. car, to a high 14 sec. car (And that's in a capable driver's hands). I'm not surprised that you walked him. They trap about 93 mph in the 1/4 mile, whereas your car is in the high 90's (98-99mph). The SRT-4 does surprised me though, as it should put up a good fight, if not beat you. Good kills nonetheless.

[rice(er)]

what mods have you done to your ss? or is it stock? the type r are no kiddy play, i know some ppl that own them, but most ppl with the rs or ls just put a type-r badge on them and there are tons like that running around, its really rare to see original type-r (especially around my area) and i believe there were less than 500 of them built in the U.S, oh yea and if you said it was an 98 type-r then it was the one with 195+ hp and weigh at about 2500-ish lbs, and you said it wasn't stock, so thats a mid to high 14s already, but like my first question, is your ss stock? otherwise it should've hang right with you if it was really a type-r and not a badge rs, ls or gsr

[2000LS1Z28]

Am I the only one that thinks Type R's aren't fast????!!!!
I have yet to see any that weren't too pretty for the track, and my buddy swears to me there was one running on nitrous that he smoked for over $20. They're not fast, not that a Cobalt's a vette or anything, but we are talking from a roll.

[Chiquae07]

i believe him about the teg, it sounds like it was debadged, but the srt-4 is questioning me a little. your friend must drive like shit, or need a tune up cuz i dont see u puttin about a bus length on one expessally from a roll. 3rd gear is its favorite. but i believe you none the less, good kill(s)

[TatII]

type R's actually traps 96-97mph average. krnxracer use to have a modded gsr and when he sold that for his type R, his bone stock type R was faster then his GSR, and he trapped at 97mph and ran a 14.7 which is exactly what bulldog's SS runs.

when i first read the title, i thought it would be a hell of a race. i highly doubt its a real type R. a real type R is quick on the highway and it doesn't require much skill to shift fast from a roll esp with a very tranny like the ones found on the type R. i remembered back then when i raced a type R, i couldn't pull on it until i was in third and by that time i barely got 3 cars on him by 100mph. and that was when i dynoed at 232whp.

[TypeS]

Fake "Type R".

They are no joke, especially from a roll. They are not FAST, but it would be a driver's race against a cobalt SS.

[RaidenKing]

still though FI 4 cylinder against NA 4 cylinder. I'd hope to see the FI come out on top. Type-R's are no joke at all, very nice cars and should have been able to keep neck and neck with you for at least some time.
Pulling that hard on an srt-4 is just plain surprising.
Thats a magic little SS you have there bulldog.

[Xenostalgia]

Sorry man I don't think that happened w/ your buddies SRT-4. Like someone else said if it is a legit SRT-4 he is having a ton of problems if he lost a 'buslength' away from you. Cobalt SS's arn't all that hot. SRT-4's eat 'em up.

the Type-R was fake. No doubt. If it wasn't he would of beat you, maybe not buslength but you would not have won. Sorry to say so.

Why does everyone think that people always mis-shift? People driving manuals have been for years. Itsn ot like a 14 yr old just got into a car for the first time. Give them credit.

[RaidenKing]

Originally Posted by Xenostalgia

Sorry man I don't think that happened w/ your buddies SRT-4. Like someone else said if it is a legit SRT-4 he is having a ton of problems if he lost a 'buslength' away from you. Cobalt SS's arn't all that hot. SRT-4's eat 'em up.

the Type-R was fake. No doubt. If it wasn't he would of beat you, maybe not buslength but you would not have won. Sorry to say so.

Why does everyone think that people always mis-shift? People driving manuals have been for years. Itsn ot like a 14 yr old just got into a car for the first time. Give them credit.

yah that's a little weird, I've never mis-shifted during a race but I'll do sometimes accidently in normal traffic if I'm not paying attention. Shit happens I guess