Domestic?

[bluespeed]

Oh my.. Yeah I realise the Eclipse shares some domestic parts, but how domestic is it? I was surfing the net, and came across some article saying that it was about 75% domestic. That can't be true, can it? If anybody knows, how domestic is the Eclipse?

[-Josh-]

Considering it's made in Normal Illinois...about 1 hour from where i live, i would say it's possible.

Also look at other manufacturers as well, many GM parts come from Canada, Brazil, and Mexico.

[Eclipse4ever]

I read somewhere inside in my eclipse that it has 22% japaneese parts inside. It was somehwre inside under the handrest, between the seats. the number was around 22 not sure but definitly in the 20% area.

[david-b]

Josh, where do you live?

[drdisque]

Its made in America and the Non-Turbo even had a dodge engine, it wasn't even sold in Japan. In my opinion, its an American car which was sometimes sold with an "import" badge.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by david-b

Josh, where do you live?

Urbana, Illinois

[bluespeed]

Originally Posted by drdisque

Its made in America and the Non-Turbo even had a dodge engine, it wasn't even sold in Japan. In my opinion, its an American car which was sometimes sold with an "import" badge.

I don't even see my Eclipse the same way now.. It's still a great car, but damn. It's like when your woman tells you she got pregnant by your best friend on your wedding day

[Turbodog97]

Yeah but either way isn't Mitsubishi a Japanese company or is it American too?

[bluespeed]

Originally Posted by endlessheart666

Yeah but either way isn't Mitsubishi a Japanese company or is it American too?

I believe Mitsubishi is a Japanese company, just with a bunch of American ties. I guess they were too busy designing the evo and such back then, that they didn't have time for the Eclipse and just let Dodge handle it. Japanerican. Bah, I don't like it.

[ted_ex]

I'm curious to know who designed the body. I always thought that it was built on a Mitsubishi frame (or unibody) but I wonder who is responsible for the actual aesthetics of the cars.

[david-b]

I heard that the body design, and basically the whole layout was from Mitshu... then parts were added in from all over.

[ted_ex]

It's odd that it would be Japanese designed, but never released in Japan. Also, I would assume the 75% domestic parts refers to the NT cars if the body, motor, and drivetrain are all Japanese on the turbos. I guess if you count them being actually built in the US as being domestic parts.

[defiancy]

Originally Posted by endlessheart666

Yeah but either way isn't Mitsubishi a Japanese company or is it American too?

Mitsubishi is a very large Japanesse company that produces many other things besides cars, from the A/C units we had in Afghanistan, to heavy machinery. I believe that Mitsu automotive is owned/or a subsidirary of General motors. Which is why they have many GM parts. Originally it was a japanese company, but now it is little more than american company with a japanese names.


Just like Ford and Mazda or Nissan

You have to understand that for instance, Ford is the largest car manufacturer in the world. They own many smaller companies, japanese included. GM owns it's fair share and then there is just Honda which is Just Honda.

[-Josh-]

Actually it was Daimler Chrysler that owned Mitsu, not sure if they still do.

Also i believe it was the FTO that was the Eclipse for the Japanese market, except they used the Mivec V6.


Edit: GM owns the shitty little Daewoo's

[defiancy]

Originally Posted by -Josh-

Actually it was Daimler Chrysler that owned Mitsu, not sure if they still do.

Also i believe it was the FTO that was the Eclipse for the Japanese market, except they used the Mivec V6.


Edit: GM owns the shitty little Daewoo's

Okay here is a breakdown of the ownerships. Sorry if I messed it up under past posts.

BMW owns:
-BMW
-Mini
-Rolls Royce

Daimler/Chrysler owns:
-AMC (brand discontinued)
-Chrysler
-Dodge
-Eagle (brand discontinued)
-Hyundai (Daimler/Chrysler only owns 10%)
-Jeep
-Maybach
-Mercedes-Benz
-Mitsubishi (Daimler/Chrysler owns 37%)
-Plymouth (brand discontinued)
-Smart

Fiat owns:
-Alfa Romeo
-Ferrari
-Fiat
-Lancia
-Maserati

Ford owns:
-Aston Martin
-Ford
-Jaguar
-Land Rover (bought from BMW)
-Lincoln
-Mazda (Ford owns 33% of Mazda)
-Mercury
-Volvo cars

Fuji Heavy Industries owns:
-Subaru

General Motors owns:
-Buick
-Cadillac
-Chevrolet
-Daewoo (GM owns 44%)
-Fiat (GM owns ~20%)
-Fuji Heavy Industries (GM owns ~20%)
-GMC
-Holden
-Hummer
-Isuzu (GM only owns a percentage)
-Oldsmobile (brand discontinued)
-Opel
-Pontiac
-Saab
-Saturn
-Subaru (GM owns 20%)
-Suzuki (GM only owns a small percentage)
-Vauxhall

Honda owns:
-Acura
-Honda

Hyundai owns:
-Hyundai
-Kia

Nissan owns:
-Infiniti
-Nissan
-Renault (Nissan owns 15%)

PSA Peugeot Citroen owns:
-Citroen
-Peugeot

Porsche is an independent company (they do work very closely with VW, however)

Renault owns:
-Nissan (Renault owns 44%)

Toyota owns:
-Lexus
-Scion
-Toyota

Volkswagen owns:
-Audi
-Bentley
-Bugatti
-Lamborghini
-SEAT
-Skoda
-Volkswagen


Just for everyones own info.