School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents

[Muscletang]

STORY

ONTARIO, Calif. - A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter.

Shay Clark was expelled from Ontario Christian School on Thursday.

"Your family does not meet the policies of admission," Superintendent Leonard Stob wrote to Tina Clark, the girl's biological mother.

Stob wrote that school policy requires that at least one parent may not engage in practices "immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship," The Los Angeles Times reported in Friday's edition.

Stob could not be reached for comment by the newspaper. Shay and her parents said they won't fight the ruling.

School administrators learned of the parents' relationship this week after Shay was reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game, Tina Clark said.

Clark and her partner have been together 22 years and have two other daughters, ages 9 and 19.

Ok I'm against the gay lifestyle but I think this is stupid right here. I don't think any child should be punished because of what their parent(s) want to do.

Here is where the debate comes in though.

Was it justified since it was a Christian school? I mean didn't Clark and her partner know what they were getting into when they enrolled the daughter into the school?

[Rally Sport]

Yeah.. I dont really get it and I bet they were definatley not surprised when this happend because obviously, its a Christian school.

[KustmAce]

Ya no kidding! How in the HELL could anyone gay possibly believe in the same God we NORMALS do???

So much for "Land of the free". Bigots.

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by KustmAce

Ya no kidding! How in the HELL could anyone gay possibly believe in the same God we NORMALS do???

So much for "Land of the free". Bigots.

That's not the point here. The thing is they knew it was a Christian school, they knew Christians didn't like the gay life style, so why did they enroll their kid in there? True, the school shouldn't have expelled the kid but shouldn't the parents have known what they were getting into?

[Shpyder]

I just don't understand...don't ask, don't tell. Yes, it's not a particularly great way to live, but then, in a place where you'll get knocked down for who you are, you need to play your cards right and be ahead of the game. Especially with your kids in a Christian school, where these things are even more of an issue...though it's ironic that the poor girl has to pay the price in the end for all this BS politics and berucracy (sp?).

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

That's not the point here. The thing is they knew it was a Christian school, they knew Christians didn't like the gay life style, so why did they enroll their kid in there? True, the school shouldn't have expelled the kid but shouldn't the parents have known what they were getting into?

Hold on a second. I am a Christian, I go to a Christian church, I have many Christian friends, and none of which "dislike the gay lifestyle". I have never heard of Christians not allowing kids with gay parents into private schools, so how would these parents have known?

[AlmostStock]

Aren't private schools allowed to admit or deny any students they wish? Then again religous institutions do enjoy tax free status so they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate.

[Raz_Kaz]

Well since the parents lifestyle go against that perticular religion, I think it's justified.
It's sad that the little girl gets screwed in the end but it is the parents fault for trying to make it work when, I'm sure, they knew that this outcome would happen if soneone found out.

[thrasher]

Bigotry motivated by religious intolerance goes a long way in this country. This is no different than racism, and it's straight up bullshit.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by AlmostStock

Then again religous institutions do enjoy tax free status so they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate.

That right there should end the debate.

They should not be allowed to discriminate against any citizen that's paying the taxes FOR THEM wherever they are. That isn't "private" in my eyes. Besides being tax-free, they charge gi-normous amounts of money for the education they're selling. So what if the parents want to pay this money to get the best education for their child?

I grew up in Catholic schools, and I remember one of my good friends being a member of an affluent Muslim family. They wanted the best education for their son, and was willing to pay the money to get it. He just did not attend any of the Masses, or otherwise religious events that our classes had to go to sometimes. No biggie - and he was not discriminated against, either.

[Flatrater]

It is still a private school and they are allowed to set up policies on admission. If the school chooses to only allow one armed one eyed students that is there right. If the private school doesn't want homosexual parents of their students that is their right.

It kinda amazes me how most people want all the freedoms to do anything they choose yet they want to restrict the freedom in private schools and businesses.

Being tax exempt doesn't mean the tax payers pay for the school just means they pay no taxes. Can anyone name any other tax exempt institutions that discriminate? How about the Boy Scouts of America, NAACP just to name 2.

[twospirits]

Basically the school can do whatever it wants since its a private school.

But the one thing that stays in my mind is why would any gay couple want their kid in any religious school. Christian teachings consider homosexuals an abomination and placing a kid in an environment that would have it subjected to possible harrassement by students, teachers and faculty that consider his/her parent as such is really beyond me.

TS out

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

It is still a private school and they are allowed to set up policies on admission. If the school chooses to only allow one armed one eyed students that is there right. If the private school doesn't want homosexual parents of their students that is their right.

It kinda amazes me how most people want all the freedoms to do anything they choose yet they want to restrict the freedom in private schools and businesses.

Being tax exempt doesn't mean the tax payers pay for the school just means they pay no taxes. Can anyone name any other tax exempt institutions that discriminate? How about the Boy Scouts of America, NAACP just to name 2.

You talk about these "freedoms", yet you would restrict tax-paying citizens the right to pay for the best education possible. What if that is the best school in their town?

You'd restrict the kid's freedom to learn because some people can't separate education from religion?

The two examples of tax-free organizations you gave might have some form of discrimination involved in each, but they also do not charge thousands of dollars per three months or so (semester).

Religious insitutions, and your examples are tax-exempt for a reason: they are non-profit. You REALLY think private, religious schools do not make some kind of profit?

Speaking of admission. Did they not talk to the parents of the child before they admitted her? Or did they just want that large enrollment fee that I'm sure they charge?

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

You talk about these "freedoms", yet you would restrict tax-paying citizens the right to pay for the best education possible. What if that is the best school in their town?

You'd restrict the kid's freedom to learn because some people can't separate education from religion?

I don't believe this child has been restricted from the best possible education. I'm sure there are other schools that are beter that would admit her. It is still a private school and the school as the right to refuse who they want to. I don't believe that personal freedoms override a private school's right to admit who they want.

This school is a religious private school founded upon religion. Why should they seperate eduction form religion?

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

The two examples of tax-free organizations you gave might have some form of discrimination involved in each, but they also do not charge thousands of dollars per three months or so (semester).

I agree they don't charge thousands of dollars but they do the same thing. Is discrimination based on a dollar figure? We allow thousands of tax exempt business to discriminate yet we don't want this one to do the same thing.

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

Religious insitutions, and your examples are tax-exempt for a reason: they are non-profit. You REALLY think private, religious schools do not make some kind of profit?

Doesn't the government monitor their status to remain tax exempt? If they make too much profit they lose there status.

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

Speaking of admission. Did they not talk to the parents of the child before they admitted her? Or did they just want that large enrollment fee that I'm sure they charge?

We don't know what the parents did or said before the child started school, so you saying they took the moeny just to take it may be off base. We also don't know if they refunded the money.

[carrrnuttt]

So the rights of the institution (based on bigotry, and flawed interpretation of a 2000-yr-old book, I might add) over the rights of the child, eh Flat?


I'm far, FAR from being a religious man, but growing up in religious schools, and religious family, I learned my fill of scriptures, and I highly doubt if Jesus would endorse this school's action, and what they are teaching the kids left in the school in the process.