real racers

[fogeesiksteythree]

i think theres nothing wrong with buying a civic. I know your probly thinkin im sum poser that doesnt know about cars, but hear me out. I was thinkin about gettin a civic at firrst ESPECIALLY since its slow. To me part of racing is taking a slow ass piece of crap and turning that 160 hp to a turbocharged 8 sec machine. If you go and buy a fast car, lets say a ferrari, it is fast as hell when its stock. Does that mean you kno alot about cars or your a good racer? no, because some rich snob can get the same car and still be fast. But taking a lil piece of crap and makin it fast takes skill and knowledge. Thats real racing to me.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

fair enough i haven't got a problem with that


if anyone does have a problem take your sh!t elsewhere!

[joebowlr21]

Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
i think theres nothing wrong with buying a civic. I know your probly thinkin im sum poser that doesnt know about cars, but hear me out. I was thinkin about gettin a civic at firrst ESPECIALLY since its slow. To me part of racing is taking a slow ass piece of crap and turning that 160 hp to a turbocharged 8 sec machine. If you go and buy a fast car, lets say a ferrari, it is fast as hell when its stock. Does that mean you kno alot about cars or your a good racer? no, because some rich snob can get the same car and still be fast. But taking a lil piece of crap and makin it fast takes skill and knowledge. Thats real racing to me.

I don't think it works like that.Sure taking a slow car and turning it fast is kool, but think about it for a second.People with money make civics fast, does that mean they are good drivers in any sense, no.It's the people that race other cars of equal power and pull ahead of them by using knowledge of how to take corners at high speeds and hit the apex at the right speed to pull out of the corner at incredible speeds.Thats what real racing is about.Not turning slow cars fast, but knowing how to drive any car to the point of it's limitation and trying to push it beyond.Any dope with money can make civics fast, but a real racer can show the true potential a family coupe has.

[fogeesiksteythree]

if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.

[joebowlr21]

Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.

No you don't, if ur rich u would pay for maintanense,Once again think before you speak.Do you think he cares if he know about turbo charging?? but he could easily find out couldn't he....Or just pay someone to maintain the car.See with money you can do anything, but skill is wut makes a racer.Stop preaching about people who take civics and make them fast, most of them have the money to do, it's not about skill.you need money to buy those better motors....you need money to buy those turbos.....you need money to buy the parts to make ur car lighter......most guys with real nice fast civics are buisness oweners or have high paying jobs.How do you think they pay for there B16A or even a B18c5 motor???

Skill is wuts needed to be a true racer.......

[fogeesiksteythree]

your saying he can get people to do it FOR him. He wouldnt be able to do it himself. Im not talkin about gettin people to do it for you. Driving is a big part of racing. So is tuning. you dont have to be rich to do make a civic fast. My friend has a crx with an s2000 engine and he isnt a business owner. hes a busboy for a restraunt.

"Once again think before you speak" why tha fuck are you talkin shit? im fuckin agreeing wit you. i was sayin that you also need knowledge. you need skill and knowledge to be a real racer.

[chebbiesux]

its not the fast civics that we hate. although they may exist, i have never seen one, so therefore, people who own civics and soup them up yet they still can't drive and their cars are still slow are the kind of posers that we pick on.

and by the way, you do not have to be a genius to tune an import.
it takes no skill at all to buy a bigger exhaust pipe nor does it take any skill to realize that your running lean and you need to buy bigger injectors. fuel injection takes the guessing out of tuning, and i am willing to bet none of the import racers out there even know what a carburetor is.

and you do have to be rich to make a civic fast. a car that starts out that slow needs so much money put into it to make it fast that other than putting in an entirely new engine (like your busboy) your gonna clean out both pockets before you start seeing a reasonable power level.
and besides, the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by chebbiesux
its not the fast civics that we hate. although they may exist, i have never seen one, so therefore, people who own civics and soup them up yet they still can't drive and their cars are still slow are the kind of posers that we pick on.

and by the way, you do not have to be a genius to tune an import.
it takes no skill at all to buy a bigger exhaust pipe nor does it take any skill to realize that your running lean and you need to buy bigger injectors. fuel injection takes the guessing out of tuning, and i am willing to bet none of the import racers out there even know what a carburetor is.

and you do have to be rich to make a civic fast. a car that starts out that slow needs so much money put into it to make it fast that other than putting in an entirely new engine (like your busboy) your gonna clean out both pockets before you start seeing a reasonable power level.
and besides, the guy with the civic now has a car thats as slow as an s2000 and still as gay as a civic

hey i know what a carb is! i own 2 carbureted vehicles (my honda and my 4 wheeler).

anyways what intrigues me most about this post is this "s2000 powered crx". the 1st thing that clicked through my mind when i read that was "BS BS BS BS BS" but before i say that im gonna ask u if u have any pics of it, or at least more info.

[DjJinx]

Originally posted by fogeesiksteythree
if your rich, thast doesnt mean you can make a civic or any slow car fast. Take bill gates for example. Hes rich as hell, but does that mean he can make a slow car fast? according to you, it does. but thats obviously not true. do you think he knows about turbocharging? NO, he'd blow up his fuckin engine. You have to know about an engine and how it works to make it fast. Part of wut u said is tru tho. driving your car with skill is also a big part of racing. but i was just talking about the tuning.

wth bill gates has enough money to buy any car he wnats, he can buy a damn space ship, y would he wnat to buy a pos and fix it up. he can just hire someone to do that for him. He wouldnt even have to race it he could hire some damn nascar racers to.

[CAptynCrunch]

Um, just as a side note, Bill gates knows more about cars then 99.9999% of the people here. They're one of his biggest hobbies. Hell, theres something to be said about owning not one, but TWO totally mint, not restored, but still in actual mint condition GT500's.

[fastrThanU]

betcha he doesn't drive 'em..... that's one of the biggest things i hate. people who buy amazing cars, like a Shelby GT500, and don't drive them. they look at them purely as "assets" and "investments." people that buy cars like that that are designed to be wrung out and driven to their absolute mechanical limit, and just let them sit in a climate controlled environment behind glass, and trailer them to shows should be put in prison.

[CAptynCrunch]

Well, fastr, i can't be sure or anything seeing as how i don't know him but i heard he's a rather avid driver. Supposedly he has a private track of some sort on his property(more like compound) for him and his kids.

[fogeesiksteythree]

ok well bill gates was just an example. i just used him since he was so rich. i had no idea he was into cars. i meant any rich person.

chebbiesux : tuning a car is more complicated than just adding a bigger exhaust pipe or injectors. like if you want to turbocharge, you need to know about lag, air/fuel, shit like that. Or a wet nitrous system. If you dont know wut your doin then you'd fuck up your engine.
To you or me, its not that complicated, but i know alota people that have no idea wut tha fuck im talkin about, i would know since i know alota ricers. its people like them that give us import racers a bad name.

DjJinx: your an idiot. if you read older posts, this isnt a thread about getting people to do work for you.

ldelaysionl : Ill try to get sum more info on that crx, but since i live far from that guy, im not sure if i can get pics. Its tru that fast civics are hard to find. It takes a really devoted person to stick with a piece of crap like tha civic and tune it.

[joebowlr21]

CRX running an S2000 motor???
*smells something....BS perhaps*

That would probably be the most complicated Hybrid transplant to take place.I mean shyt, the S2000 engine is angled different to fit the longer base of the s2000.Plus the drivetrain is FR not FF, which would be expensive as hell to convert for a CRX.I don't think he's just a bus boy to afford everything he needed.Hell the motor would be hard to find also, i mean an H22A motor goes for 4-6g's, i wouldn't even have a clue how much the s2000 motor would even go for.Until you get pictures of the car with the hood up, i'm calling BS!!!!

[tofstchvy]

I would call bs on the s2000 mtr in a crx. The s2000 mtr rotates clockwise. All the other honda mtr's rotate counter clockwise. There is no way you could hook it up to any Honda fwd tranny