2 bored 16 year olds, $1000, 10sec crx

[avw0516]

ok, my friend and I want to make a project crx next summer. The one and only goal of this thing is to go fast...like 10 second 1/4 mile fast. We have a budget of $1000 so heres the plan. Get a crx si for around $400-500, get a starion intercooler, 14b, 1g dsm bov, hf headers, all piping, and nitrous. We are hoping to get well into the upper 200hp range with this setup, then we are going to strip the hell out of this thing, replacing all the glass, power options...basically everything that isn't 100% necessary to run. Hopefull we can get it down to like 1200lbs. I figured that we should post our idea on a honda website seeing as we are both 4g owners and aren't real familiar with them (thats why we're using 4g parts on it) Any advice or comments would be very helpful.

[TheSilentChamber]

yeah, sorry to disapoint, but your not going to see 10's, and your not going to be able to get all that on 1000 bucks.

[avw0516]

I don't see why we couldn't do all that for $1000, we can get all the parts to turbo it for like $350 from a junkyard and making parts like the adapter plate and piping isn't very difficult. Why wouldn't we hit 10's...traction? If traction was the problem we could splurge and get a set of slicks. Since you don't think its possible could you explain why not instead of just saying its not possible because its not possible. I dont mean to be a dick but I need some reasons and information.

[iVteC_PoWeR]

$1000 for putting parts in a CRX will not even get you into 14s. Also, what motor are you going to use? A $1000 custom turbo setup from a junkyard is not going to be the best setup and also I doubt its going to even get you everything you need for to make the car reliable. You need the fuel management, turbo manifold, turbocharger, downpipe, bov, intercooler, all the oil lines and everything and that WILL be over $1000. A person can spend $10,000 on a CRX and he will still be in 13s and POSSIBLY 12s.

[1PhatCX]

good luck
seems like someones been watching too much fast and the furious

[maxassassin]

i think your forgetting the poor little motor. you need to drop in forged parts that are meant for high compression that alone its 1000 if oyur lucky. so its a no go just like everyone else said.

[TheSilentChamber]

Ok going off what your saying, an si for 500 (yeah right by the way), junk yard turbo setup for 350. Ok, that leaves you 150 bucks. Are you catching on now?

[avw0516]

Ok, so basically you guys are saying that by turbochargiing the crx we will blow the engine...right? If you didn't get the idea, the crx doesn't need to be reliable at all, its ONLY going to be used at track events. Money isn't really that big of an issue seeing as we can sell parts we have taken off and the parts we need are cheap as hell. As for fuel management, turbo manifold, turbocharger, downpipe, bov, intercooler, all the oil lines and everything all of that can be taken out of a junkyard for next to nothing. Also here in Ohio crx si's are dirt cheap they top out at around $1500 for low miles and in good shape, we're going for a beat ass one that we can abuse even more. We aren't trying to make it reliable or even street leagl for that matter. If we can get it down to 1200lbs we dont need tons of horsepower to run fast 1/4 mile times. Straight up we don't care how long this crx lasts, also im sure that with the boost turned down it would be fine. By the way, if you spent $10,000 on a crx to run 12's you'd be a moron, i spent about $1000 on my talon and bought it for $3750 and its running 12's. Bottom line is its a summer project and the sole purpose of the crx is to run fast very cheaply, reliability aside.

[4G4D Store]

I think I'm a little more optomistic - IF you can get a crx with an Si (d16a6 or d16z6) engine for $500 or less then you can probably make a 14sec car for around $1000 if you get some decent deals on some turbo stuff. I've seen a few guys do some basic turbos for about $500 - so it can be done - but it might take a little while to round up the parts for the prices you want. So far I've got $50 into my turbo setup and all I have left is the turboedit ecu chipping, intercooler piping and downpipe and misc oil and coolant lines and fittings. But I've been rounding up parts for about a year now and I've traded parts for things I've needed. As far as the engine goes, you can probably run 9psi on a good motor if you put a metal headgasket on it and use some arp headstuds to stop the head from flexing under boost. You'll also want to tune the turboedit fuel management as best you can so you aren't running to lean or rich and stuff. If you take your time, do your research and find good deals I don't see why you couldn't build a decent track car for $1000 - but I do agree with the guys here when they say you can't build a 10 sec car for $1000 - even if you strip the hell out of it. You need upgraded everything - fuel pump, internals, injectors, slicks, lsd, axles and probably a few more things. But I'd say 14's are doable with a turboed d16. I have a friend here locally that has a d16z6 in a 92-95 coupe that ran a 13.8 @ 104 on a stock motor and tranny with boost and arp head studs. It was a generic turbo setup as well. So let that be your inspiration. Make sure you do your research - that is most important. I would try and up your budget a little for misc stuff like timing belt, spark plugs, wires and stuff.

[FuLL BLown STD]

Impossible! i also dont know how u would even think u can get a rex to 1200pds either lol 10's? what lol this thread put a smile on me face hehe g/l wit the pipe dream

[CivicSpoon]

Everyone, read the title "2 bored 16 year olds". Same crap different year, different user. Everyone thinks hp is easy and cheap to come by, and then they wake up to reality. Even IF (and by if; I mean no fn' way) you had the power to weight ratio to make it to 10's, say goodbye to your axles and/or engine on the first run. You need to do a hell of a lot more research before you even BUY the car.

[avw0516]

hey the reason it's next summer's project is because we need to do all of the research first. why do most of you guys just trash this idea. 1200lbs is what it will weigh, we are doing a very unconventional stripping job, bodypanels, glass, ported floorpans, bumpers taken off...trust me it will weigh 1200lbs. Now for the horsepower how does 250 on the nitrous sound? that wouldnt be that hard on the engine and it would be fast enough (theoretically) to get us into the 10's. (rant)Seriously can someone give us some real information instead of being an ass "same idea different year" i wonder what you'll be saying in a year. look everyone says do youre resaeach then why don't you give me some info instead of trashing the idea. (/rant)

[funkmaster_bc]

alright. i am the other bored kid thats part of this project. i disagree a little with my buddy in that the car is not part of our budget. and our parts budget needs to be upped to 1500 bucks. but i really dont see how its not possible. reliability, comfort, and everything else thats not completely essential to running will be thrown out the window. and when we say we are stripping, we mean serious stripping. like ripping body panels off and making our own out of sheet metal. street legal??? of course not... but seriously with a 14b turbo setup maybe a little bigger running some high psi we could easily dip into 11, perhaps 12 second 1/4 mile times. i saw a crx in super street a couple issues ago that had 250 hp and spun the tires all the way through 4th gear. so obviously traction will be a problem. slicks will hopefully fix that. and if we are running a 75 shot of nitrous who says 250hp isnt possible. the power to weight ratio would be ridiculous. i know the project may sound ambitious but we are going to be using some seriously unconvential methods. also, my buddy thinks the 150k internals of the crx are going to last, i have other ideas, what would be the easiest and cheapest engine swap that might improve the reliability past 1 run down the track. you guys dont seem to understand, this will work.

[4G4D Store]

A 75 shot of nos on 11psi of boost would most likely toast your motor with 2 squeezes or less. Stock d series pistons and rings aren't built to handle that much power period.

[avw0516]

OK my buddy is a bit heavy on the nitro, how about a 50 shot. Honestly we will probably only drive the car 4 times, once from where we bought it, twice at the track, and once off a jump into a lake...thats right a lake. I figure that it will take most of the summer to build it and then we will only have a few opportunities to race it, and if it breaks, o well, we had fun, now lets kill the bitch. jk, but really the only point of it is to get experience and have some fun running fast 1/4 mile times (most likely very abusively).