05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

[TheQuietThings]

last night, after i had dropped my girlfriend off at her house, i was cruising down a nice 4 lane street with a few red lights in between. a pontiac grand am gt [the new ones, looked like an 04] pulls up to a light with me. the car has 5 kids in it, blasting whatever music they had blasting, my music was louder so i didnt hear exactly what it was. i do hear the car rev however, so i roll up both windows and close the sunroof. light goes green.... instantly jump a half a car ahead.... 2nd gear im still around 1/2 - 3/4 car lengths ahead, around the top of third, the grand am catches up and is about 3 or 4 feet behind my front bumper and i am like holy shit i cannot lose to this car that is loaded with punk asses. well luckily i got through the beginning of 3rd and i began pulling again to around 90 where we shut down. i was a little disappointed in my car that i couldnt pull more than a car length at most on a pontiac that was filled with 5 people. oh well..... thats what i get for having a stock car.

cliff notes
Scion tC > Pontiac Grand Am GT + 4 passengers.

[turtlecrxsi]

Hey you still killed. Let the mods begin... (ie. give up your favorite thing to save enough money to make your car faster... LOL)

[TheQuietThings]

TRD supercharger coming soon.
i think thats about the only modding i am going to be doing besides building up my tranny a little bit. i still want to get decent gas mileage and have the car 10+ years without dumping a ton of money into it.

[Mr. Luos]

I will put you up against my Grand Am GT. I won't be loaded down.

BTW....they had the same body style from 99 to 05.

Also, how did you hear it rev if your music was louder than theirs?? The Grand Am's are fairly quiet.

Did it look like this??

[TheQuietThings]

yea it looked something like that
maybe the music was louder, but my music was loud enough so that I couldn't tell what music he had on.
and yea.... revving an engine to 6k isn't hard to not hear. sorry if you don't believe me or whatever.

[Mr. Luos]

Not saying I don't believe you.

BTW...the Grand Am's can't rev to 6000 in neutral. Computer won't allow it. Acts like a rev limiter. Has to be in gear to get over 4000.

[King Of Crunk]

good race....what do grand am GT's have for horsepower and such? are the ones with ram air any fast?

[drdisque]

I believe they have about 185 hp stock and run High 15's/Low 16's if you launch it well.

[TheQuietThings]

175hp and 205lbs/ft. [grand am gt]

i hope they run better than a low 16, since the tC runs a 15.7 with 163HP

[drdisque]

the GA weighs a decent bit more than the TC and has to deal with a little more drivetrain loss.

[Mr. Luos]

The best I have heard of the Grand Am GT's running stock is 15.4. And that is the best one. Slow car really. Works for my daily driver nicely though.

[Slo S14]

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

The best I have heard of the Grand Am GT's running stock is 15.4. And that is the best one. Slow car really. Works for my daily driver nicely though.

A buddy of ine drives an automatic (not sure if they even come in standard shift) and supposedly ran a 15.1 @ 92 with a 2.2 60.. They must come alive up top, my old car ran a 15.5 @ 92 with a 2.3 60.. 4 people would weigh it down a good bit though, good kill

[Mr. Luos]

Mine is a DOG up top. I would want to see that slip, and proof it is stock.

[Slo S14]

I don't buy the et either without a better 60, a 2.2 wouldn't cut it on a stocker.

[Mr. Luos]

Originally Posted by Slo S14

I don't buy the et either without a better 60, a 2.2 wouldn't cut it on a stocker.

I question everything. 92 MPH is WAY too fast for the stock Grand Am to trap.