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Old 08-08-2005, 07:02 PM
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Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

In light of recent events around my area I've given serious thought about how to get all the street racers to start racing at a track. So far I've drawn nothing but a blank except for one of famous Midnight Epihanies. What if the local P.D. would shut down a 1 mile stretch of road once a week for racing? Granted the 5-0 in my neck of the woods is way to lazy for this but would it work anywhere else? That way you have track like conditions on the street. You get the accessibility of the street with the safety of a track. Granted my Midnight Epiphanies usually need some work after inception but this pne actually kinda makes sense. Anybody have any thoughts?
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:22 PM
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

in all seriousness.... no town would allow it because of the liability... yes, it makes sence, but the town would lose money and after a while if anyone got hurt, they could sue... i say open up a "non profit" track and have everyone be charged a monthly membership fee.
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in all seriousness.... no town would allow it because of the liability... yes, it makes sence, but the town would lose money and after a while if anyone got hurt, they could sue... i say open up a "non profit" track and have everyone be charged a monthly membership fee.

no monthly membership fees, thats worse than paying for each time to go to the track (unless of course the fee would be less than $10)

In a perfect world, a rich man in every town would buy a plot of property and create a large stretch of road on his property over 1/4 mile and unoficially have people come race it. If anyone was stupid enough to get hurt, he would be able to say they were tresspassing on his property and not be liable.
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

around here i think having a track where you can race a street car more than 1 night a week might help. a lot of the teens that street race work on weekends anyway. but as far as your question goes i agree with greenblurr
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

like green blur said it could never work because of liability reasons. if that happend and some kid got hurt lawyers would have a hayday. for us all there is aer test and tune nights at the local track or street racing.
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Greenblur....that tatoo is F'n awesome dude.... i want one similar to it... it'll be narly...
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You Americans are all so sue-happy

Opening public streets to racing doesn't work or it would have been done already. I think the main reason is because racing is a heavily regulated sport requiring all kinds of safety standards. You'd have to classify it as something apart from "racing" or it just wouldn't get approved.

I think the best idea, as mentioned, is to have public dragways which are heavily gov't subsidised whereby a small fee is charged. Kinda like the idea of phone booths everywhere would be nice.

But at the end of the day, it's just simply economics, supply and demand. There is not enough demand for these kind of facilities for anyone to build more dragways and hence the prices to participate will not go down.

As with the legal liability thing, not such a big issue. There is such thing as contributory negligence and assumed risk. If a boxer gets killed in a clean fight - that is, no malice involved - his family can't sue for wrongful death. If you participate in a dangeorus sport, you claim responsibility for anything that happens - as long as it is accepted as a possible occurence in the normal running of that activity. A simple waiver signing will accomplish that problem. So in my opinion, it is a tiny hurdle.
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

i go to the track but theres somhing special about the street
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

i think we all have good points, but im still sticking with my idea..lol. if someone could buy a plot of land and make a 1/2 mile strech of road, the "membership fee" would only help pay for maintainance of the road (repaving, pot holes, etc) i never said it would be an outragous amount... especially if you only charge $15 a month of unlimited use. say you got 100 kids to pay that, thats 1500 a month in membership fees which is 18000 a year... not bad if you ask me... and ofr unlimited use a month.. id pay it... and part of the membership agreement would be a release of liability... i think its not such a bad idea..

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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

I like the rich dude idea maybe when I get my signing bonus I'll look into that. whats concrete cost anyway?
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

The local drag strip here IIRC is $15 a night for as many runs as you can get for street night, which is usally Weds and Fri nights. Most drag strips have somethign similar, and it's ceratinly not cost prohibitive.
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Join forces with your local SCCA organization. Maybe try and setup a clean up the streets program or something. Some of those guys in the SCCA have good ties with the local government and powers that be. Publicise an event, get people interested and it's usually free just to spectate an event. We only have drag, auto-x and the local dirt circle track (not my cup o tea), so if you have a road course it is a good spectator friendly place to get people interested in spending more time at the track.

Hill climbs and rally-x work pretty good if you are in that type of area.
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

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Join forces with your local SCCA organization. Maybe try and setup a clean up the streets program or something. Some of those guys in the SCCA have good ties with the local government and powers that be. Publicise an event, get people interested and it's usually free just to spectate an event. We only have drag, auto-x and the local dirt circle track (not my cup o tea), so if you have a road course it is a good spectator friendly place to get people interested in spending more time at the track.

Hill climbs and rally-x work pretty good if you are in that type of area.
i dont think the scca does drag racing
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:19 PM
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Heh, yeah I just realized the error of my ways. When I spent some time down at Texas A&M the TAMUSCC (Texas A&M University Sports Car Club) sported drag races as well as autocross and rally. The SCCA itself doesn't sanction drag events, but some clubs might fit it under their belt...
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Re: Organizing the Horde/How to Make The Street Racer Become A Track Racer

I'm going back to school soon so I'll see what the racers and teams there have to say and if they would be willing to lend me support. Hopefully if I can get enough of them to get their asses to Scribner maybe then I can convince them to talk to local P.D. with me.
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