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Old 08-04-2005, 11:08 PM
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i own a 94 3000GT SL and i want to make it a showcar but want it still be fast in case i do race but turbos are too expensive what are some other upgrades i can do that are a good bang for the buck please help thanks
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:27 AM
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Re: turbo or no turbo

You want it to be a show car, but turbos are too expencive? Ill I can say is WOW.
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:36 AM
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Re: turbo or no turbo

U can find turbos for cheap anymore - alot of people have them i have 2 spare turbos of my own, I just keep them as back ups- If your serious looking to have a show car - an turbos are too exspensive then you might wana think about waiting till you have more loot- cause turbos will not be the most expensive thing you need to make your car show...
u should just save up a lil while eh?
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Re: turbo or no turbo

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Old 08-05-2005, 01:43 AM
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In my opinion, Turbo and Show Car dont mix. In fact, I absolutely HATE cars (or owners of cars, rather) that have alot of engine work done but never see the road. Maybe show the car, earn some money, then turbo it the right way and drive it like it was meant to be.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:14 AM
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Re: turbo or no turbo

Im not a big racer so turbos are not really necessary for me. As long as i kill the majority of the cars i race its good enough for me.(mainly the punks in the GTPs and camaros And turbos are not expensive but the conversion can be costly depending on who does the labor and how good of deals you get. Showing cars on the other hand I love to do, and is also costly. Ive had my car at 10 shows already and ive only owned it for a little over a month. Everyone appreciates a nicely detailed engine compartment For upgrading your NA i suggest looking into the upgrade bible- http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85924
Only major thing its missing is the long headers I think. That will give you a good idea of how much you want to spend on power, And how much you want to spend on detailing. As for me I would detail my whole car before i would put turbos/supercharger in. But thats just me.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:47 AM
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Re: Re: turbo or no turbo

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Im not a big racer so turbos are not really necessary for me. As long as i kill the majority of the cars i race its good enough for me. (mainly the punks in the GTPs and camaros And turbos are not expensive but the conversion can be costly depending on who does the labor and how good of deals you get. Showing cars on the other hand I love to do, and is also costly. Ive had my car at 10 shows already and ive only owned it for a little over a month. Everyone appreciates a nicely detailed engine compartment For upgrading your NA i suggest looking into the upgrade bible- http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=85924
Only major thing its missing is the long headers I think. That will give you a good idea of how much you want to spend on power, And how much you want to spend on detailing. As for me I would detail my whole car before i would put turbos/supercharger in. But thats just me.
gl with the choices.
You kidding about beating GTP's and camaros with your car right?
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Re: turbo or no turbo

First thing... you cant just bolt up turbos onto a SL engine... the compression its different than the vr4... if you put turbos on a stock SL engine you will ambey make it a mile down the road and it will throw a rod or detinate and blow a hole in your piston. Used tubors are really cheap. you can go to DSMtrader.com and find some 13bs or 14b for like a $100 bucks a peice... but seince your a SL this is what will be involved to comvert it to turbo.
First off your compression needs to be lowered... that is something you cant really do your self... so you would have to have it built to 8:1 compression. then once you have that done you will have to then but new exauhst manifolds that will allow the turbos to bolt up. new downpipe, intercooler/s, and new intake lines, and then once you have that done you will have to get it tuned with a piggy back MAPing system (MAP-ECU) because it will have to be running just right not to destory the engine. all in all i mean thats about a $7000 - $10,000 conversion (the right way) and if you where geting new turbos then it would be alot more ALOT. and thats just to get it running... to get it running like a vr4 you would have to get alot of stuff... the SL throttle body is much smaller than a vr4s and the intakes is smaller too... i mean once you get into it... it is a very pricey thing to do... i can go on forever. you would be better off going and buying a vr4 or a JDM vr4 engine and drop it in.
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Old 08-05-2005, 06:26 PM
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um no im not kidding...are you?
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Re: Re: turbo or no turbo

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um no im not kidding...are you?
wow~
well how many horse an how much torque u running ? cause my fiance has a 99 gtp an it by all means not slow its got a sc/3.8 thats a big six cylndr these days, camaro's i could see u beating atleast off the line because of the fact they might have poor traction. Also what kinda mod do you have ?

cause you only have a k&n kit as your mods - would mean you have like 230hp max
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:00 PM
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Re: turbo or no turbo

Im not saying GTP is slow, its quite fast for a large car. pre 97 was rated at 240hp i believe and the latter was rated at 260. Im just saying I havent been beat by one yet. Camaros on the other hand anything 6 cyl is very slow. 305 and 350s are funner to race. Horsepower isnt everything. Especially rated hp
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Re: turbo or no turbo

92vr4red, Im putting a 10:1 motor in my TT stealth. It will be just fine.
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Re: turbo or no turbo

well i never heard of a turbo car running 10:1 compression and run properly... you must not be boosting over 10 lbs.
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Re: Re: turbo or no turbo

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Im not saying GTP is slow, its quite fast for a large car. pre 97 was rated at 240hp i believe and the latter was rated at 260. Im just saying I havent been beat by one yet. Camaros on the other hand anything 6 cyl is very slow. 305 and 350s are funner to race. Horsepower isnt everything. Especially rated hp
nobody ever said hp is everything, u didnt say that it was the 6cyl camaros - they suck an run horrible i again my friend erich had a berlinetta - he very quickly put a 305tpi in it - an i have raced my friend kennys completely stock R/T an inihalated it with my fiance's stock gtp. so the people you race must not be that great at driving cause kenny was pushing his r/t to the max, ya the late 90-04 gtps rock the 240hp 05's ones are a bit more.

I duno man i just find it hard to believe how a car that runs 0-60: 7.1 1/4 Mile: 15.6

against a gtp car that runs 0-60: 6.6
1/4 Mile: 15 @ 92 mph

and the camaro runs a 15.2 305 the 6cyl. runs 17
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ziess where do u live bro?
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