-
Grand Future Air Dried Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Mitsubishi > 3000GT/Stealth
Register FAQ Community
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-31-2005, 05:15 PM
Personunknown Personunknown is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Personunknown
Question Stealth clutch trans problem

I recently aquited a 1992 dodge stealth 5 speed FWD SOHC base model. The engine runs smooth, but when the clutch was released, nothing happened. So after discovering there was no friction material left on the clutch, I replaced it along with the preasure plate, bearing and flywheel due to several large cracks in it. Once reasembled, I discovered the trans was burnt up, 1st gear specificly. After locating another trans and installing that, the same thing happened, released the clutch, NOTHING.
So I'm at my whits end, I don't know if I missed a step, if I'm going to have to bleed the clutch or somthing. But I need help, anything. So if anyone has any experience with somthing like this, I'd appreciate anything you could offer.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-31-2005, 06:47 PM
Twizted_3KGT's Avatar
Twizted_3KGT Twizted_3KGT is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,780
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

Well check your clutch fluid and make sure it's full. If you're pedal comes back to you after you push it down then you shouldn't need to bleed anything. If it has nothing to do with that then I would say maybe you need to replace the clutch fork, or something is wrong with the release bearing. If nothing is wrong with those two parts then i'd have to point to installation error on the clutch, because I can't think of any other situation that nothing at all would happen...it doesn't even stall when you let out the clutch in gear?
__________________
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - 269AWHP/290AWTQ (Mustang Dyno) - [email protected] - 1.756 60ft. - [email protected] (Best TDO4-9B Time) - Driver Mod - IPS TD04-19TL - SPEC 4+ - Wiseco Pistons - 3SX Custom Forged Rods - PMP FMIC + Much More.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-31-2005, 09:30 PM
talskinyguy talskinyguy is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,955
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to talskinyguy
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

Can you get it into gear?
__________________
A few "bolt on" mods, a couple "cut, smash, hammer, weld, etc" mods, and a couple "why the hell do I need this/what the hell is this" weight reductions.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-31-2005, 09:56 PM
Stealthee's Avatar
Stealthee Stealthee is offline
Your worst nightmare
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,090
Thanks: 45
Thanked 257 Times in 251 Posts
Re: Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

When you replace the clutch you most certainly need to bleed to clutch really well as well as adjust the clutch pedal. I went thru the same thing with mine.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-01-2005, 01:09 AM
Personunknown Personunknown is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Personunknown
Exclamation

when I reinstalled the original trans, I pumped the clutch, started it up, put it into second (first was burnt) drive it back and forth in the garage. Now with this one, when I pumped the clutch the first time, it DIDN'T come back. I had to reach down with my hard and pull it back, then re pump several times, now that I think about it apon first installation that didn't happen and it doesn't feel as firm, could be my imagination. Currently I am able to get it into gear. and the only thing that happens is a light rubbing noise from the engine and the speedomiter jumps to about 4 mph, and will rise when the engine is reved up. So something is happening. I'll play with the ajustment of the pedal, and see about bleeding the clutch before I re-remove the trans to look at the fork and bearing. those shood be good, bearing is new and fork was well cleaned and lightly greased on the piviot points. If any of you have anymore suggestions I'm all ears.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-01-2005, 05:45 PM
Stealthee's Avatar
Stealthee Stealthee is offline
Your worst nightmare
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,090
Thanks: 45
Thanked 257 Times in 251 Posts
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

Trust me dude. I bet there isnt even anything wrong with your other transmission. The clutch needs bled very very well to make sure all the air is out. If not you wont be able to get it into gear. Also if the pedal isnt adjusted right with the new clutch it will want to grab at a very low point making it almost impossible to drive. Dont put yourself thru pulling the tranny again.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-01-2005, 09:35 PM
Twizted_3KGT's Avatar
Twizted_3KGT Twizted_3KGT is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,780
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

Could there be a situation where the clutch pedal is misadjusted to the point that the clutch doesn't grab hard enough?
__________________
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - 269AWHP/290AWTQ (Mustang Dyno) - [email protected] - 1.756 60ft. - [email protected] (Best TDO4-9B Time) - Driver Mod - IPS TD04-19TL - SPEC 4+ - Wiseco Pistons - 3SX Custom Forged Rods - PMP FMIC + Much More.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-02-2005, 11:09 AM
Personunknown Personunknown is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Personunknown
Exclamation

the first transmission was in fact bad, there was no teeth left on first gear and all other gears were also missing multiple teeth and syncros showed really bad wear. So with all everyones help, I went back and was tinkering with a few things and noticed that the clutch fork doesn't rebound all the way, so the clutch isn't able to grab enough. So, I am going to bleed the clutch, and ajust the pedal to see if that will assist in making the fork rebound correctly. Does anyone know if that will help, or will that be a waste of my time? Besides doing that, the only other possibility that I can think of is that the throwout bearing isn't slideing smoothly on the axle drive shaft thing in there.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-03-2005, 01:51 PM
Twizted_3KGT's Avatar
Twizted_3KGT Twizted_3KGT is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,780
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

axle drive shaft thing = input shaft

So do you mean the clutch fork can't rebound all the way or it can but just doesn't have the spring power to?

TOB is a slight possibility, but it would take some driving time before it would actually seize to the point that you couldn't get the gear to grab I would imagine. Can't hurt to put a dab of grease on it if you already have it all apart!
__________________
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - 269AWHP/290AWTQ (Mustang Dyno) - [email protected] - 1.756 60ft. - [email protected] (Best TDO4-9B Time) - Driver Mod - IPS TD04-19TL - SPEC 4+ - Wiseco Pistons - 3SX Custom Forged Rods - PMP FMIC + Much More.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-03-2005, 06:19 PM
Personunknown Personunknown is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Personunknown
Exclamation

Imput shaft, thats the name I was looking for!!! thanks.
The clutch fork has the ability to rebound all the way, but it simply doesn't. you can push it by hand to the correct position but it just creeps back the that half ingaged half uningaged point.
When I had it all apart I put a light amount of grease on the "imput shaft, the contact points of the clutch fork to the bearing and the piviot point of the fork. When I maunally depress the clutch and move the fork by hand, it feels fine, its really difficult to put against the pressure plate springs by hand so, I don't think thats the problem. Has to be something between the actual clutch pedal and the slave cylinder?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Stealthee's Avatar
Stealthee Stealthee is offline
Your worst nightmare
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,090
Thanks: 45
Thanked 257 Times in 251 Posts
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

Bleed, bleed, bleed then adjust the pedal. Thats all. You are too paranoid. But dont worry I had the same paranoia.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-04-2005, 12:07 AM
Personunknown Personunknown is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Personunknown
I know, I know. I've been working on this car for months now and had little to no trouble with getting things taken care of, so then to run into this and not being able to figure it out, I want to be sure about how to fix it, cause if not I'm only left with taking it to someone to have it fixed. I've never had to do that, so I'd never forgive myself. OK, no more Paranoia. Off to bleed the clutch.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-04-2005, 11:23 AM
Twizted_3KGT's Avatar
Twizted_3KGT Twizted_3KGT is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,780
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

Yep, i'm with Stealthee on this one, i'm gonna have to do the same to my car soon.
__________________
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - 269AWHP/290AWTQ (Mustang Dyno) - [email protected] - 1.756 60ft. - [email protected] (Best TDO4-9B Time) - Driver Mod - IPS TD04-19TL - SPEC 4+ - Wiseco Pistons - 3SX Custom Forged Rods - PMP FMIC + Much More.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-13-2005, 12:57 AM
Personunknown Personunknown is offline
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Personunknown
Unhappy

Ok, so I bled and bled and bled. Nothing. still no go power. The only thing I can think of is that there is a possibility that there is a problem with the transmission agian, whether its blown or if there is just a compatibility issue with this one, it is out of a 3000GT not a stealth.
Still looking for help if anyone is still willing.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-13-2005, 02:00 AM
Stealthee's Avatar
Stealthee Stealthee is offline
Your worst nightmare
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,090
Thanks: 45
Thanked 257 Times in 251 Posts
Re: Stealth clutch trans problem

No compatability issues as the 3000gt and Stealth are exactly the same. Did you adjust the pedal? If its not adjusted correctly then its not to work right.
__________________
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Mitsubishi > 3000GT/Stealth


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:32 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts