got a alignment...do I need a camber kit?

[j32pilot]

Ok just had a alignment done. Here are the numbers. My current setup is 1991 Honda Civic Si, Tokico Blues, Eibach Sportline, Konig Rated R's with Kumho 205/40/17's. Here are the numbers they gave me:

Front Left Front Right
Camber -2.0 -2.6
Caster 2.9 2.9
Toe -.07 -.11

Rear Left Rear Right
Camber -1.1 -1.7
Toe 0.22 0.24

They told me I need adjustable ball joint camber kit, and were going to charge me $450.00 for the cam kit and installation. I was so fucking pissed. DO I need a camber kit really. I dont mind the improved handling, but I dont want any abnormal tire wear. Example, inside wearing out tons faster. Also I put 2 washers in on each bolt on the control arm in the rear, do I need to pull one out. The drop on the Eibach Sportlines was suppose to be 1.7" Front 1.5" Rear. Let me know ASAP. Thanks guys and gals.

[marked001]

you dont need a camber kit...but you're definitely gonna get some inside wear...you can get kits for under $150 and install is pretty damn easy...just gotta unbolt the upper control arm really...but there is not way to adjust the camber on honda's w/o a kit...

[j32pilot]

Thanks marked, Is the inside wear going to be that bad? LIke some of the horror stories on here, I got these tires, 2000 miles later the inside is bald. They told me I need to make sure I get a camber kit with adjustable ball joints. I just saw one on ebay thatt was $95.00. How do you install them? Do you just take tire off, take upper control arm off, put on camber correction kit, then put it back on and get a alignment? Thanks again man, any other insight?

[marked001]

..it all depends on how bad the camber is..I had some really bad camber on my old hatch and I just lived w/ it... if your car is slammed, a camber kit will just cause more problems b/c it usually pushes the control arm out more into the wheel well, causing it to hit the wheel well..

..I personally havent seen any kits for 88-91s that replace the upper arm and have an adjustable ball joint (except shitty chassis tech). most kits replace where the control arm mounts w/ slotted attachments... post up the link to the one on ebay..

[j32pilot]

Yeah this is true, I have somewhat of a problem when I pull in the driveway of the wheels rubbing the fenders. They have cut the edge of the tires some too. Kinda sucks. It is even going to be worse when I align the camber. Like I said in the first message, it is only 1.0 Degree off on the left and 1.7 off on the right. Is it that big of a deal. It handles real well now. I just dont wanna be putting tires on every 4 months cause I am using 1/2 the tire up. I have had the rims on now for about 2500 miles, and have noticed no abnormal wear.

Here is the link to the deal on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1824847299

let me know what you think I should do. Thanks again man, I appreciate it.

Mike

[j32pilot]

I dont want to get a camber kit and find out that when I get the alignment done, that I will be rubbing all the time. Will the tire wear be that noticeable....? How many degrees of camber can your car withstand without abnormal tire wear. Anyone. Habib where the hell are ya....?

[Jmunk]

I put a Ingalls camber kit on my car and when they aligned it the guy left each wheel -0.5 degree camber on each front wheel. I have no problem with rubbing.

[jc836]

Both Ingalls and Specialty Products make camber kits for CRX and Civics. There are several ways to do it, including a sliding ball joint on a modified control arm and the eccentric bushing type (certain model cars). The 2nd gen CRX is similar in the rear to a 96+ Civic HB and can have a number of ways to correct -including different arms or using shims. Shims are fine for small amounts of correction in the rear.
As to tire wear-you will have an issue with it with the amount of camber you now have. Keeping the tires rotated in your case is not going to solve it. Keeping the toe-in set correctly will help a little.
You mention $450 for kits and install. Some of these parts go for $100 for a corner. The install is simple if you have tools and time. In my case-SCCA says that ITA cars can only use shims and bushings-so I have to be careful about the amount I lower the car. This is true for my CRX and Prelude. The Civic is set up for Autox.