Oil pan/pump ect??

351wStang · #1 07-22-2005, 10:32 PM

Ok its time to buy an oil pan, pump, & pickup. What I'm looking for advice on is do I need to spend $300+ on a 7qt+ pan or will the 5 1/2 qt pan from summit work just fine for $131? My mods are listed below and the s-trim uses oil from the engine as well so....what do you guys think? Will I have any problem useing the 5.5qt pan? Also if I where to buy the smaller oil pan would I just need a stock replacement oil pump?
Thanks in advance.

SkylineUSA · #2 07-23-2005, 01:01 AM

I have not looked into the oil pan issue with my build as of yet, but can I ask why you would want to use 8.5:1 on your compression? Unless later on you are planning to hit some pretty big boost numbers, I would go 9:1 or maybe a little higher.

mustang girl 2 · #3 07-23-2005, 03:53 PM

Why do you want to get a new one any way??? got a hole or is it old????

I would put a 9.1 in there instead of what you wanted to put in there....

351wStang · #4 07-23-2005, 06:47 PM

I'm going 8.5:1 due to piston choice and the size of my combustion chambers. I have 60cc chambers so with a -22 cc dish I will be around 8.5:1. My block however will be decked accordingly to get me up a little higher on compression, closer to 9:1 (around 8.7).

I'm getting a new oil pan because the stock style 351w pans will not fit the crossmember of the fox cars.

SVTcobra306 · #5 07-24-2005, 08:03 PM

I'd stick below 9:1 also. Even if you say you'll stay below 9 PSI it never seems to happen and the pulley gets swapped....I'd even stick with 8.5 personally unless the block really needs decked. If so you can still get thicker head gaskets...

As for the pan, you have to ask yourself if an extra 200 bucks or so is worthy insurance for your nice shiny new shortblock and huffer....

It also depends on your use, You'd probably get away with a standard pan if it's a street car that only gets raced occasionally, but if you're at the strip every weekend, I'd go the Canton or Moroso route....

BTW check out summit PN MOR-20520 It's a 7 QT Moroso for fox chassis 351W. 220 bucks...

351wStang · #6 07-24-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SVTcobra306

BTW check out summit PN MOR-20520 It's a 7 QT Moroso for fox chassis 351W. 220 bucks...

Thanks for the part number. I didnt see that pan during my search. I am looking at a couple canton pans on the corral for $200+ shipping, but one comes with dipstick and tube and the other has dipstick and tube + pickup, so if I get get a shipping price from 1 of those two guys I'll go that route. Otherwise I'll buy the moroso you just showed me.

Another reason I'm keeping compression low is because its been in the 90* range during the day here lately, I may not run a boost retard at first, and I'm being told by several worthy people to lock my timing up high.

351wStang · #7 07-24-2005, 08:25 PM

AHH! Just realized the moroso pan was not an engine swap pan. I need a swap pan to put my 351w into my 87 coupe. I hope the guys over on the corral come thrue and save me some money lol. Thanks for trying SVT.

SVTcobra306 · #8 07-25-2005, 06:47 PM

??? Me confused, it says it fits a 351W in a Fox Chassis.... To me that is a swap pan, unless you used some serious dropped motor mounts? I've never done a Windsor swap into a fox, but it seemed it should work. I tried...

I've always had very good luck on the corral, I post there under a diff. name from here.

351wStang · #9 07-25-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SVTcobra306

??? Me confused, it says it fits a 351W in a Fox Chassis.... To me that is a swap pan, unless you used some serious dropped motor mounts? I've never done a Windsor swap into a fox, but it seemed it should work. I tried...

I've always had very good luck on the corral, I post there under a diff. name from here.

Says it fits 79-85 chassis. Mine is 87.

I just bought a Vortech tensioner pulley, MarkVIII fan, and LM-1 off of the corral. Hopefully I can get the Canton pan soon, 1 pan already fell through.

SVTcobra306 · #10 07-27-2005, 12:44 AM

My Summit says 1979-1995 chassis....which makes sense since they didn't change much...

BigDanTheMan · #11 07-27-2005, 01:24 PM

i have a brand new oil pick up for the 5.0, if it fits the 5.8 you can have it. pm for shipping/questions.

StangNut86 · #12 07-27-2005, 04:27 PM

i'm going with the motorsport pan/pickup/dipstick combination in my 393, part number FMS-M-6675-A58. about 130 bucks.. it's perfectly adequate for what i'm doing, which is mostly drag racing. i'm using a melling high volume stock replacement oil pump, so i'm not anticipating any problems. ARP makes a really slick bolt kit for both the pump and pickup for about 10 bucks i think.

351wStang · #13 07-27-2005, 05:16 PM

Thanks guys but I got a Canton pan off of the corral. 7qt 351 fox swap new with dipstick for $220 shipped.

351wStang · #14 07-27-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDanTheMan

i have a brand new oil pick up for the 5.0, if it fits the 5.8 you can have it. pm for shipping/questions.

Thanks but the 5.0/302 and 5.8/351w have different pans with different bolt patterns.

Edit: Ah you said pickup not pan, my bad. Is it for the deep sump'd Canton style pans? Is it made to be held on by the little nipple 3/8 or so thread on the end of one of the stock main bolts?

BigDanTheMan · #15 07-28-2005, 03:17 AM

it is for the stock pan i assume

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