is there detailed pics of bottom of civics online?

[Sean Price]

i think i need to replace my exhaust system...

i understand there is a muffler but what is it connected to?

cat converter?

well the muffler point opposite the open end that shoots out exhause fumes is rusted thru and fell apart aka my muffler is now not connected to anything... but then today i noticed the pipe that hooks up to the muffler has now rusted thru as well....so even if i somehow connected the muffeler back up its pointless since that needs fixin now too..

1. is my muffler still good? how do i check it?

2. is this job easily somethign i can do?

3. what am i lookin at in cost..


4. what am i doing' aka what am i replacing to my in experienced a$$ i think its the muffler and the pipin that connects that muffler?

any tips hints ideas suggestions?


could this be why it seems i kill a lot of gas?

i mean i konw its the reason why my car sounds "LOUD" as hell...

thank you, thatnk you

good day!!

bring forth all that knowledge


oNe

p.s. can somebody tell me why the chiltons and the haynes manuals are no good? why is the helms manual the ONE to get? whats so special bout is? other thne price?

[wheel1856]

First, the Helms is the bomb because they didn't forget anything. Hayne's and Chilton's are notorious for leaving out critical info like the existance of bolts, or torque specs, and various electrical systems. Try wiring in an alternator with one of those manuals, then call a cab.

Second, muffler is easy to assess. Get underneath. See all the stuff that is rusted through? Replace it. If it's a small hole, you can buy a patch kit at an autoparts store, and save some bucks. If the pipe broke from rust, you're replacing something.

Check the pipe to see where the connections and welds are. If the rusted through pipe is before the entry pipe for the muffler, you need to replace the pipe - expensive because of the specific length, size, and resonnator. If the pipe rusted after the connection, muffler, cheaper and more adaptable.

Of course, this is all based on a variety of conditions that I, nor anyone else, couldn't 100% diagnose without seeing it. It's a pretty common sense thing (short of the nominclature), whatever pipes are rusted out, replace. Depending on shop labor charges, somewhere in the neighborhood of $200-$250 to replace the rear pipe and muffler.

I would very highly recomend (regardless of state) that you avoid places like Midas. They are notorious f**kers who will tell you to replace the whole system for an obscene amount of money because of a small hole in a "critical area" and their labor wages are usually the highest. Find some mom and pop shop like Bubba's Mufflers er something where good ol Bufford will probably just cut out the rotted pipe and weld in a new piece for a fiver.

[Sean Price]

aight i know i'ma catch major heat for this one..

but here goes..


aight i'ma change the oil on my car tommorow and my hope is to get it all lifted so i can EXTENSIVELY check the underside of it..

thing is on that online pdf manual floatin around it says civics \have lift points on the front and back..


aight i'ma yall to break it down for me STUPID like.. as if i'm a girl who never worked on a car before in her life?


where exactly are theY i can't seem to find em? i have 2000 civic ex sdn auto...


also which helm's manaual as they are bout $70 a pop and i went to their web site and their's like 10 different ones...
http://www.helminc.com/helm/basket.a...XR13P31C7ADQ68

http://ht.bidz.com/ht/cat?dept=238



let me know...

peace

oNe

[superbluecivicsi]

1. jack the back part of your car up.
2. you see in the first pix where the muffler connects to the b pipe. remove the 2 bolts there. on the muffler itself, there are hangers. remove those. install the new or used muffler. installation is of reversal of removal.

if that is just too difficult for you, take it to your local muffler shop and oay them to put or weld a new one on.

problem solved.

[civic_stuntin]

lol don't feel bad for not finding the lift points, i didn't find em' either, especially not the front lol i'm sure it was incredibly unsafe

[Sean Price]

aight fellas jus got back from the shop....


they quoted me as needin a new cat back exhaust system and they'll do it for $225...


what do you think is that good or what? i wen to 2 other shops and they talkin bout $500 for all that..



basicaly what i need is EXACTLY what dude has in those above pics i need all that replaced... new muffler and new pipe and the round cylinder thing as well.... for $225 installed, sounds good to me...


let me know what yall think as i belive that price of $225 is more then fair ....

i'ma check back on this in about 3 hours..

so hopefully yall got some input for me...


thank you all


peace

oNe

[Schister66]

if you're ever in doubt as to where you can lift the car, you can feel along the bottom of the car and find the pinch welds along the bottom....you can lift on those. The pinch weld along the bottom is going to feel like a seem in the metal on the car. The lift points on Civics are reinforced sections of the pinch welds. Just be sure you're lifting on the metal and not the lip on the bottom of the side skirts.....

[Sean Price]

Originally Posted by Schister66

if you're ever in doubt as to where you can lift the car, you can feel along the bottom of the car and find the pinch welds along the bottom....you can lift on those. The pinch weld along the bottom is going to feel like a seem in the metal on the car. The lift points on Civics are reinforced sections of the pinch welds. Just be sure you're lifting on the metal and not the lip on the bottom of the side skirts.....

isn't it even pointed out for you? on my car there is arror that points to this spot and the weld sticks out... bout an inch and a half i jus put the jack lift right under that.. ****that is correct RIGHT? am i doing it correctly am I NOT? ***


thanks for the replies guys.. its not that i didn't know where and how to lift it.. its that i was SPECIFICALLLLY lookin for the FRONT and BACK lift points as pointed out in this pdf manual floatin around here.... i.e. where EXACTLY are those? feel me? main i even had this honda service guy, i sed to dude where is my front lift point and he got down on his hands and knee'S and he couldn't "really" find em either... i don't know maybe they don't apply to my ride.. ??



oNe

p.s. oh yeah i found a shop run by homeboy from around the way he did the job for $150, my ride SHO RUNS clean now.. although peeps NOW say it sounds like a sissy cuz before it was louder then a system wit modded exhaust.....

[superbluecivicsi]

http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.ph...87&an=0&page=0

[Sean Price]

Originally Posted by superbluecivicsi

http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.ph...87&an=0&page=0

thanks for the linke...



cept it aint' work..


thanks tho


oNe

[superbluecivicsi]

http://www.deliii.com/index_ie.htm