96 intermittent starting problems

nicolem · #1 07-19-2005, 02:03 AM

I have a 96 Explorer. For the past 1 1/2 years it has had intermittent starting problems. When this happens, it does crank but does not actually start. It happens when the engine is warm/hot, as in running errands and I need to stop and start the car. It has always done fine first thing in the morning and after being parked at work all day. But recently, even this has failed me. It has never stopped while running---only has trouble starting.

Over this time, I have taken it to the shop several times and they have not been able to figure it out. It never has the starting problem for them. They have fixed several things guessing at what it could be. My check engine light is on and has been for years. The latest readings showed that it was the oxygen sensors and they replaced those. But the light came back on a week later or so. They have put in new spark plugs and belts and all sorts of other things.

I know nothing about cars and am debating how much more money and effort to put in this car. After reading some of the entries on this and other forums, it seems it could be some sort of fuel relay or EEC relay. Any ideas? What do I tell the mechanic?

Thanks in advance!

HectorDiaz · #2 07-19-2005, 10:32 AM

I have a 97 For dExplorer Sport. I have the same problem. When it does not start, I let it sit for a while (an hour or so) and then it starts as if there were no problem. I too replaced the battery, the alternator and have taken it to several mechanics who are all stumped. My problems started about a 6 months after having the engine completely rebuilt. It's been about a year now. I would hate to get rid of it since I put so much into rebuilding the engine. I thought that maybe that guy did something wrong but maybe this is more common than I thought. If you have any luck please let me know, I would REALY like to stop this problem.

listddp · #3 07-27-2005, 04:23 PM

I've got a 98 Merc Mountaineer/Explorer and seem to be having the same problem. It's been getting provressively worse and it started about 6 to 8 months ago. Its in the shop as of today to see if they can find the problem. I have a Haynes repair manual that suggested a number of things to check(with a multimeter). I replaced the ig coil because it was out of specs(secondary resistance) and cleaned the IAC valve, and replaced fuel filter, but last night had the same problem when leaving LOWES. The shop is going to check the fuel pressure and other sensors as well as engine codes that may have be logged without check engine light. I'll post an update with what they find.

exploded99 · #4 07-27-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by listddp

I've got a 98 Merc Mountaineer/Explorer and seem to be having the same problem. It's been getting provressively worse and it started about 6 to 8 months ago. Its in the shop as of today to see if they can find the problem. I have a Haynes repair manual that suggested a number of things to check(with a multimeter). I replaced the ig coil because it was out of specs(secondary resistance) and cleaned the IAC valve, and replaced fuel filter, but last night had the same problem when leaving LOWES. The shop is going to check the fuel pressure and other sensors as well as engine codes that may have be logged without check engine light. I'll post an update with what they find.

I would suggest to all of you to replace your Idle Air Control valves. Two bolts, sits right on top of the engine, over the throttle body, and will cost you about 50 bucks for the part. Easy to do yourself.

These get"sticky" and do not always work well when old. Replacing this will cure the starting problem for many vehicles. IAC can cause hard start, no start, intermittent start, poor idle, dies at idle, rough idle issues.

Then if you still have the problem, you can rule this issue out.

JL2695 · #5 09-07-2005, 11:44 AM

I've had the same problem here with a 96 ford explorer. Replaced the IAC but no change. What should I try next???

rginter · #6 09-12-2005, 11:44 PM

I had a similar problem with my 96 4.0 Explorer. It would not start "warm". No problem getting it started cold or hot. The fuel pump pressure was in or very close to specs but I replaced it anyway. Problem fixed.

asemstr · #7 09-13-2005, 11:24 PM

Try replaceing the fuel filter first, and if the problem remains check the fuel pump's pressure and output. The fuel pump may not be produceing enough pressure for start-up after its been run for a period of time so it may not be able to perform till it cools down. If thats the case you need to fire the lazy fuel pump and replace it! Its not a uncommon condition in Rangers, and Exploders!

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while checking cranking fuel pressure it should stay at nearly 60psi!)

JL2695 · #8 09-15-2005, 07:30 PM

I haven't got around to doing anything more with the explorer yet. I just try to avoid those short trips. As with most intermittant problems they eventually become permanent and then it's usually easier to pinpoint the problem.

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Originally Posted by asemstr

Try replaceing the fuel filter first, and if the problem remains check the fuel pump's pressure and output. The fuel pump may not be produceing enough pressure for start-up after its been run for a period of time so it may not be able to perform till it cools down. If thats the case you need to fire the lazy fuel pump and replace it! Its not a uncommon condition in Rangers, and Exploders!

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while checking cranking fuel pressure it should stay at nearly 60psi!)

merak2310 · #9 09-17-2005, 02:36 AM

Hey everyone, I got the same probelm. Got a 98 Sport and after driving for a while it will not start. I noticed that their is air in the schrader valve so my next step is replacing fuel pump. Just wanted to see if anyone has tried tha yet. Let ya know what happens. thanks.

listddp · #10 09-26-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by exploded99

I would suggest to all of you to replace your Idle Air Control valves. Two bolts, sits right on top of the engine, over the throttle body, and will cost you about 50 bucks for the part. Easy to do yourself.

These get"sticky" and do not always work well when old. Replacing this will cure the starting problem for many vehicles. IAC can cause hard start, no start, intermittent start, poor idle, dies at idle, rough idle issues.

Then if you still have the problem, you can rule this issue out.

Hey Everyone. Don't have good news on the 98 Merc Mount. Its still starting on the sencond attempt(while hot) after swithing the ignition off. Had replaced the IAC motor and it seemed to increase the idle, but thats all I could see as to the affect. I'll pass the information about the fuel pump...it was at the very low end of the specs(30 psi) when I had the fuel pressure checked.
Thanks for all the information.

JL2695 · #11 09-26-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JL2695

I haven't got around to doing anything more with the explorer yet. I just try to avoid those short trips. As with most intermittant problems they eventually become permanent and then it's usually easier to pinpoint the problem.

Was wondering if this solved your problem. I noticed asomething this weekend that might lean toward the fuel pump. After church I was sitting in th ecar waiting for my wife and I turned the the key on to roll down the windows and listen to the radio. It was only on for about two minutes but had trouble starting the car after that. Doesn't the fuel pump come on as soon as the key is turned? Seems like the fuel pump might have good pressure right at first but then drops off if the car isn't started up right away.

~manuel~ · #12 09-26-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JL2695

Was wondering if this solved your problem. I noticed asomething this weekend that might lean toward the fuel pump. After church I was sitting in th ecar waiting for my wife and I turned the the key on to roll down the windows and listen to the radio. It was only on for about two minutes but had trouble starting the car after that. Doesn't the fuel pump come on as soon as the key is turned? Seems like the fuel pump might have good pressure right at first but then drops off if the car isn't started up right away.

check your static fuel pressure when you turn the key on but leave the engine off(and dont crank either). fuel pressure should remain steady, if you see it start to drop immediately, then you have a defective internal check valve,which is part of the fuel pump assembly, or bad pressure regulator.

mjmj2000 · #13 10-02-2005, 05:36 PM

I just had my 96 explorer in the shop for the intermittent starting problem, I got tired of waiting for it to start and had it towed. They replaced a computer rely that was faulty seems to have worked so far

srercrcr · #14 10-19-2005, 05:50 AM

Has anybody checked to see if there's a Ford Technical Service Bulletin for this on their year of Explorer?

JL2695 · #15 08-29-2006, 06:40 PM

ok I know this is an old thread but I finally got around to changing the fuel pump in my 95 Explorer. The problem seemed to go away for a while but it's back again. Any other ideas out there??
To recap, The problem is that sometimes the car will crank and crank but won't fire up. When it does start, which is most of the time, it strats up right off just like a new car. I replacede the iac valve and the fuel pump so what's next?

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