1990 240 SX hp?

[Dillweed]

I'd like to know how much horse a 1990 has.

I'd equally like to know if they ever made a turboed 240 SX.

And if they did, what years did they make it?

[koh]

in america the 1990 240sx has 140hp and there was never any turboed version released in america...datz why we suck

[Dillweed]

Another one.

How much horse does a 91 have.

It's because my cousin talked to a Nissan Mech. and he supposedly said that a 240 SX had 160 hp. My cousin asked then what the difference was between the Stanza and the 240 SX since the Stanza only had 140hp and it's the same engine. He said it was injectors and intake from the factory.

I'm glad I didn't believe him.

[koh]

the 1991 240sx has 155hp, the mech prob rounded up or something...why dont you just get a 95 240sx and swap in a sr20det from japan, thats what everyone in america is doing recently

[Jay!]

Originally posted by koh
the 1991 240sx has 155hp, the mech prob rounded up or something...why dont you just get a 95 240sx and swap in a sr20det from japan, thats what everyone in america is doing recently

I, for one, am thinking this over. But I think I'd prefer to get a '93 and swap in the SR engine and then get my hands on some later-year S13 body parts (taillights, Front valence, side skirts...) Can the S13 240SXs trade up to SR engines as easily as S14s?

[Dillweed]

When you guys say SR20DET, is it the one with 203 hp like in the Bluebird or is it the SR20DET with 230 hp like in the Sentra SE-R, the Pulsar and the NX2000?

[koh]

i am refering to the sr20det found in the japanese silvias (240sx)...and i have seen a lot of s13s with sr20dets, i even saw one with a rb

[Morpheus XIII]

When you guys say SR20DET, is it the one with 203 hp like in the Bluebird or is it the SR20DET with 230 hp like in the Sentra SE-R, the Pulsar and the NX2000?

--Dillweed

The Bluebird's SR20DET is a transversely mounted engine with a front wheel-drive transmission, and therefore cannot be used in any 240SX. The U.S. Sentra SE-R, Pulsar, and NX2000 never received the factory turbocharger; they were powered by the ~140hp SR20DE (also transversely mounted). The only (and simplest) way to get the ~200-250hp longitudinally mounted SR20DET & transmission for U.S. 240SXs is to obtain them from J-spec S13-S15 Silvias.

I, for one, am thinking this over. But I think I'd prefer to get a '93 and swap in the SR engine and then get my hands on some later-year S13 body parts (taillights, Front valence, side skirts...) Can the S13 240SXs trade up to SR engines as easily as S14s?

--Silver S2000

Excellent choice! I'm pleased to see more and more S13s on the road fully updated to japanese market specifications. I also prefer the hatchbacks, but there are many sharply built coupes on the road as well. Not long ago, I was passed up by a '93 coupe with the appropriate '93 Silvia front clip, and no doubt with the right powerplant.

To answer your question about the 240SXs SR trade up, I would say that it is easier accomplishing this on the S13 than on the S14. The technical difficulty is nearly identical on either model, but S13 SR engines are MUCH more readily available. You can use S14-S15 motors on the S13, but wiring the ECU and passing emissions becomes much more complex. Furthermore, the S13 SR20DET is generally a great deal less expensive.

[Jay!]

Good. I might be able to afford "cheaper." What's the difference between the S13 hatch and coupe? I'm sure you have pictures handy. I can't remember seeing any variation. Or do you mean the S14 when you say coupe? That would make sense, wouldn't it?

[Dillweed]

Your right, I don't know what I was thinkin'!!!!!!

That was a very stupid question, therefore I take it back.
Sorry

[Morpheus XIII]

What's the difference between the S13 hatch and coupe? I'm sure you have pictures handy. I can't remember seeing any variation. Or do you mean the S14 when you say coupe?

--Silver S2000

VERY good question. I know this gets a lot of people here in the States; it got me for a while.

First off, no, I don't mean the S14. In Japan it's very easy to differentiate the S13 coupe and hatchback. The coupe has a box-like body with slim rectangular fixed headlamps. The rear shows a similar theme, also with narrow elongated light fixtures. The hatchback on the other hand looks exactly like the ones we see on U.S. roads: pop-up lights, slanted fastback, semi-oval taillights, etc. Both coupe and hatchback of this era were built side by side as sister cars, and therefore parts were easily interchangeable.

Their coupe was sold here around 1993, but it's hard to pick them out because they've been 'adapted' for North American consumers. Market research determined that pop-up lighting was 'in' at the time and so they incorporated the same old front clip on the coupes. Therefore, our '93 240SX trunkers had the original japanese rear-end blended with the hatchback's nose. This was also beneficial for Nissan because then a sporty appearing ragtop variation would be possible for the lineup (as you know, convertibles can generally be built only on coupe platforms).

With parts generally becoming more available and cheaper, some Stateside enthusiasts are fitting their S13 coupes with the original J-spec fixed headlamps, along with SR powerplants, thereby recreating genuine Silvias.

On a side note, the japanese call U.S. S13 coupes the "Onevia" (180SX front + Silvia rear). Conversely, a hatch with fixed lamps is called "Sileighty" (Silvia front + 180SX rear).

Pictured below is a North American 240SX S13 coupe (front):

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The same car from the rear (note the significant taillight and bodyshape difference from the A-pillar back, from the hatchback models pictured elsewhere in this forum):

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And now for the same year Silvia S13s from the land of the rising sun. Obviously NOT stock, this one is my choice pick, created by AB-flug. Skin-wise, the stock models don't look all that different; factory issue headlights and front fenders are the same:

(Food for thought: In order to purchase an S13 240SX coupe and recreate the japanese Silvia, one would be required to obtain a J-spec front bumper, hood, headlights, and fenders. If this person was an all-around modification enthusiast, wouldn't it be wiser to purchase the Silvia aerodynamics from the aftermarket in the first place?)

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And these last shots are to show that the rears and sides of the japanese S13 Silvias are identical to those of the U.S. S13 240SX coupes. These particular cars are enhanced by Bomex:

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Note that it IS a real Silvia with the fixed headlamps: