First loss in tah bimmer

[TypeS]

But it was still the best race. I went to testdrive the 5.7L GTO 6 speed on Saturday with a friend. I heard great things about the GM interior but the car didn't impress me at all. I doubt even the 6.0 with 50 more horses would change my mind.

Anyway, on my way back home I was going through a toll booth. There was a C5 Vette in the far right lane which was about to end. I always drive a little spirited, which might have given him an idea that I wanted to race. Well, we merged onto the highway going about 100 mph and slowed down. My friend rolled down the window and said "is that stock" Then, the second funniest thing of the afternoon happened. The guy smiles and litterally lifted his leg up to the steering wheel and stomped on the gas pedal. Then I heard a chirp coming from his tires, which made me go because of the speed we were going already. I put it in 4th and just followed him.

He slowed down up ahead and this biiiiig long stretching turn was coming up. He was in the inside lane and I was in the outside. We were going about 70 this time, which a great spot to put it in 3rd. We took off at about the same time, and he could barely put a car length on me throughout the whole turn, even though I was in the outside lane. We got all the way up to 150 mph as the road straightened out.

I slowed down and he waved me to come up. We slowed down to about 50. I rolled down the window and the funniest thing happened. Picture this, this guy was about 35-40 and he looked really confused, on top of looking like a comic book character. He pointed at my hood and said "What do you have under that thing?!" "I'm stock" i said. He's like "Bullshit!" and started doing this I don't have any engine mods, only a short shifter and CDV delete. I said "are you stock?" There were cars coming up behind us so I had to speed up. He pointed 4 fingers at me and then to the rear of his car. I couldn't tell what he was trying to say, but the exhaust didn't look stock to me. He took the next exit as my friend and I were laughing our asses off. I bet he thinks that something is wrong with his car...and I can't believe how smoothly this sedan took that turn at 150 mph in the outside lane.

Sometimes a loss is a lot more fun than a win.

[illegal_eagle187]

nice race, yeah i dont like Pontiac or Chevrolet's interior, its so outdated, its been practicaly the same since like 94ish

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by illegal_eagle187

nice race, yeah i dont like Pontiac or Chevrolet's interior, its so outdated, its been practicaly the same since like 94ish

Well, the interior is better than a lot of other cars actually, but not good enough coming out of a BMW.

What disappointed me was the power. That thing could probably only barely pull on the BMW and would get wasted in the twisties. It's not worth losing heated seats, 2 doors, A LOT more room and a lot of other things for .4 seconds in the quarter mile.

[illegal_eagle187]

well yeah i mean think about it........who would win the twisties, a pontiac or a bmw...hmm but yeah i understand what your saying

[solaris=amazing]

Damn, 150mph...nice bro, i like vette's but alot of people make that go to there head.

"Oh, i got a vette...i'm the fastest car on the road".. That sort of thing.

The gto, yeah that car has a retarded power to weight ratio, just like the 05 mustang, horrible.

-Power to weight ratio, i keep on remembering my friends 89 hatch stang that was lightened to 2800lbs....with a 302 in it, and some bolt ons.... NOTHING, i repeat...NOTHING ever snapped my head back like that car, crazy. I've gotten a ride in a Z06....04 gt stang.....m3....nothing compared.

[CassiesMan]

I love power to weight ratios...Best example I have is a 9 sec 1/4 with 180hp...hehehe...

Anyways, good death, nothing like being able to hold with a Vette...then go pick up three more freinds and groceries.

[King Of Crunk]

good race man...

[BlackGT2000]

This is no reflection on the race because I realize that more than power to weight plays a factor. Nor am I trying to change anyones opinions on vehical preference. I just thought I would point out the cars mentioned and their power to weight.

GTO
3725 Pounds
400 HP
400 Tq
0-60 5.0
1/4 Mile 13.3
9.3 Pounds per horsepower

BMW 540i V8 w/6m
3748 pounds
282 HP
324 Tq
0-60 5.5
1/4 Mile 14.0
13.2 Pounds per horsepower

2001 C5 Vette
3212 Pounds
350 Hp
360 Tq
0-60 4.8
1/4 Mile 13.3
9.1 Pounds per horsepower

2005 Mustang GT
3425 Pounds
300 Hp
315 Tq
0-60 5.1
1/4 Mile 13.5
11.4 Pounds per horsepower

[-Josh-]

Good race

Some cars just aren't made for everyone. I like the GTO interior, hell of a lot better than Pontiac has done in the past. Understandable though, like i said, not for everyone. I like the interior in the new Grand Prix's, but i know a lot of people who dont. Power to weight ratio doesn't mean shit if you dont have that ever so elusive driver mod. Cars are so blended together nowadays you can't really say, well this car is better than this one because.... Now it's all about personal preference, rather than a car actually being better than another, when you talk about high end cars such as these.

[TatII]

Originally Posted by solaris=amazing

Damn, 150mph...nice bro, i like vette's but alot of people make that go to there head.

"Oh, i got a vette...i'm the fastest car on the road".. That sort of thing.

The gto, yeah that car has a retarded power to weight ratio, just like the 05 mustang, horrible.

-Power to weight ratio, i keep on remembering my friends 89 hatch stang that was lightened to 2800lbs....with a 302 in it, and some bolt ons.... NOTHING, i repeat...NOTHING ever snapped my head back like that car, crazy. I've gotten a ride in a Z06....04 gt stang.....m3....nothing compared.

haha thats more like tq to weight ratio. 302's dont make much peak hp and generally don't trap very high for their ET's.

[-The Stig-]

How does a 282hp 540i keep up with a 350hp C5 Corvette from a Roll?

Power to weight has very little to do with a car that's already rolling. But, even power to weight still is a disadvantage to the BMW when compared to a C5 Corvette.

Which has a 68hp advantage, and more importantly far better aerodynamics.

BMW 540i's are nice. But don't hold a candle to a Corvette perfomance wise.

Sorry...

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by Z28Josh

Good race

Some cars just aren't made for everyone. I like the GTO interior, hell of a lot better than Pontiac has done in the past. Understandable though, like i said, not for everyone. I like the interior in the new Grand Prix's, but i know a lot of people who dont. Power to weight ratio doesn't mean shit if you dont have that ever so elusive driver mod. Cars are so blended together nowadays you can't really say, well this car is better than this one because.... Now it's all about personal preference, rather than a car actually being better than another, when you talk about high end cars such as these.

Like I said, the interior wasn't bad, actually I was impressed because I expected a lot more cheap parts. Blaupunkt stereo wasn't bad either.

But I didn't like the performance. I expected a lot more from that car with that engine, but the car is just too heavy. If it was a 4 door, I'd understand why it's so heavy. BTW I test drove a 5.7, which is "only" the 350 hp version. Another thing is, the 540 isn't exactly geared for a 0-60 time.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

How does a 282hp 540i keep up with a 350hp C5 Corvette from a Roll?

Power to weight has very little to do with a car that's already rolling. But, even power to weight still is a disadvantage to the BMW when compared to a C5 Corvette.

Which has a 68hp advantage, and more importantly far better aerodynamics.

BMW 540i's are nice. But don't hold a candle to a Corvette perfomance wise.

Sorry...

Yes, I made that whole story up. You got me there.

[TypeS]

What do they trap anyway? 540is have 102 mph. Add to that, it was auto vs 6 speed and it was from a roll, they won't be THAT far off.

[-The Stig-]

I'd just like you to explain to me how it's possible... given the Vette was going flat out.

That you kept up being in a car that has less Horsepower and is less aerodynamic... and the fact that you say the Vette was in the inner turn lane... meaning he should of pulled away if you two were going the same speed cause he has the shorter distance.

And if you want to play power to weight ratios (which don't play much of a role when you're racing from a roll cause the weight is already moving)... you're still losing that battle cause you're heavier and a passenger.

Adding up all the factors, it seems that the Vette wasn't going full bore. More like toying.