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keyless entry not working on 98

Hey does anyone know where the keyless entry recever is located and how to get to it in a 98 grand prix, i replaced the battery in the remote and it still wont work. not sure if its a fuse or not, cause everything else in the car works. if anyone can help that would be great!
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Hey does anyone know where the keyless entry recever is located and how to get to it in a 98 grand prix, i replaced the battery in the remote and it still wont work. not sure if its a fuse or not, cause everything else in the car works. if anyone can help that would be great!
The keyless entry receiver module is located in the dash behind the area of the instrument panel. Have you tried programming it.

The receiver works in conjunction with the body control module (BCM) which is located under the driver's side of the dashboard in the proximity of the emergency brake.

You'll need to remove the kick panel for access.




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Re: keyless entry not working on 98

Here's the procedure to program the remote:

Transmitter Programming

No Tools Required

In the event that a transmitter is lost, program the old and the new transmitters into the memory of the remote control door lock receiver. Up to 4 transmitters may be programmed.

Important

Once the keyless entry receiver enters the programming/diagnostic mode, the programming of the first transmitter erases all previous transmitter programming information. You must then program all of the
transmitters.

Program only 1 vehicle remote control door lock receiver at a time. If you program multiple receivers simultaneously, the same transmitter could possibly be programmed to more than 1 remote control door lock receiver.

Perform the following steps:

1. Sit in the vehicle driver's seat.
2. Remove the ignition key from the ignition lock cylinder.
3. Close all of the vehicle's doors.
4. Remove the MALL PGM fuse from the fuse panel. Refer to Electronic Diagnosis in Body and Chassis.
5. Turn the ignition lock cylinder to the ACC position.
6. Turn the ignition lock cylinder OFF, then back to ACC within 1 second.
7. Open and then close any vehicle door. You will hear a chime when the remote control door lock receiver enters the programming/diagnostic mode. If you do not hear a chime, start again at step 1. If the remote control door lock receiver does not enter the programming/diagnostic mode after a second attempt, refer to Electrical Diagnosis.

Important

After 7 seconds you may hear a chime confirming successful synchronization. After approximately 14 seconds, you will hear a chime confirming successful programming.

8. Press and hold the transmitter LOCK and UNLOCK buttons simultaneously for 14 seconds.
9. Repeat step 8 in order to program each additional transmitter.
10. Remove the ignition key from the ignition lock cylinder.
11. Install the MALL PGM fuse back into the fuse panel. Refer to Electrical Diagnosis in Body and Chassis.

Validate that all the transmitters that were programmed operate properly. Refer to Keyless Entry System Operation .



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Re: Re: keyless entry not working on 98

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Here's the procedure to program the remote:

Transmitter Programming

No Tools Required

In the event that a transmitter is lost, program the old and the new transmitters into the memory of the remote control door lock receiver. Up to 4 transmitters may be programmed.

Important

Once the keyless entry receiver enters the programming/diagnostic mode, the programming of the first transmitter erases all previous transmitter programming information. You must then program all of the
transmitters.

Program only 1 vehicle remote control door lock receiver at a time. If you program multiple receivers simultaneously, the same transmitter could possibly be programmed to more than 1 remote control door lock receiver.

Perform the following steps:

1. Sit in the vehicle driver's seat.
2. Remove the ignition key from the ignition lock cylinder.
3. Close all of the vehicle's doors.
4. Remove the MALL PGM fuse from the fuse panel. Refer to Electronic Diagnosis in Body and Chassis.
5. Turn the ignition lock cylinder to the ACC position.
6. Turn the ignition lock cylinder OFF, then back to ACC within 1 second.
7. Open and then close any vehicle door. You will hear a chime when the remote control door lock receiver enters the programming/diagnostic mode. If you do not hear a chime, start again at step 1. If the remote control door lock receiver does not enter the programming/diagnostic mode after a second attempt, refer to Electrical Diagnosis.

Important

After 7 seconds you may hear a chime confirming successful synchronization. After approximately 14 seconds, you will hear a chime confirming successful programming.

8. Press and hold the transmitter LOCK and UNLOCK buttons simultaneously for 14 seconds.
9. Repeat step 8 in order to program each additional transmitter.
10. Remove the ignition key from the ignition lock cylinder.
11. Install the MALL PGM fuse back into the fuse panel. Refer to Electrical Diagnosis in Body and Chassis.

Validate that all the transmitters that were programmed operate properly. Refer to Keyless Entry System Operation .



Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
i have tried that and it still wont enter the programming mode, i dunno if it varies depending on what year the car is for those steps
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Re: Re: Re: keyless entry not working on 98

I'm quite sure its the proper procedure for a 98 model. Do you have a spare remote to try?

Do you have any aftermarket anti-theft mods where the RKE was disabled?



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Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials




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Re: Re: Re: Re: keyless entry not working on 98

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I'm quite sure its the proper procedure for a 98 model. Do you have a spare remote to try?

Do you have any aftermarket anti-theft mods where the RKE was disabled?



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3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

1998 Is the same as your 1997 Bob. The only diff. the 98' is better looking, and faster. HA HA
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1998 Is the same as your 1997 Bob. The only diff. the 98' is better looking, and faster. HA HA
Jim, you hurt her feelings..lol. She's a 97.5.



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Jim, you hurt her feelings..lol. She's a 97.5.



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u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
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OH, I'm sorry.
The only diff in your 1997.5 and the 1998 is, .............................
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Re: keyless entry not working on 98

no i dont have an extra remote, and im not too sure if there is any after market alarm installed either, i just bought the car a little over a week ago, and like anyone, want everything to be in working order, if anything does anyone know of a link or directions on how to get to the recever, so i can just check it out to see if anything could be visually wrong with it, i dont wanna just start pulling things out. thanks!
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no i dont have an extra remote, and im not too sure if there is any after market alarm installed either, i just bought the car a little over a week ago, and like anyone, want everything to be in working order, if anything does anyone know of a link or directions on how to get to the recever, so i can just check it out to see if anything could be visually wrong with it, i dont wanna just start pulling things out. thanks!
Which remote do you have. There was two for that year (and most others.) One has three buttons the other has four. I have a spare four around here someplace.
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no i dont have an extra remote, and im not too sure if there is any after market alarm installed either, i just bought the car a little over a week ago, and like anyone, want everything to be in working order, if anything does anyone know of a link or directions on how to get to the recever, so i can just check it out to see if anything could be visually wrong with it, i dont wanna just start pulling things out. thanks!
How many doors are on your GP? The receivers are in different locations.

Also, there is also a RCDLR module. Unless you get lucky there is no simple procedure to troubleshoot this type of problem or do it visually. Dealers have to use a Tech 1 or 2 machine because it is necessary to scan for GM manufacturer specific BODY DTC error codes and to check for remote synchronization errors.

I have a GM GP service manual and so does KustomKid54 (Jim) on RKE but sometimes it is vague. However, there is a troubleshooting procedure to follow. The first thing it states is program the remote, then the next thing on the list is replace remote. After that there are a lot of BCM module and wiring checks, etc.

To get to any of these modules you'll have to drop the driver's side kickpanel and turn into a contortionist. If you have a 2 door I already told you where the receiver is located. Have fun!




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3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials




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Forgot to mention....BTW - Service manual recommends checking only 3 fuse possibilities:

R/CMPT REL fuse
Fuse No. 32
Radio fuse



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Re: keyless entry not working on 98

yea my GP is a 4 door (looks just like the red one in the pic), so i geuss its in a different spot? i also have the one with 3 buttions lock, unlock and trunk.
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yea my GP is a 4 door (looks just like the red one in the pic), so i geuss its in a different spot? i also have the one with 3 buttions lock, unlock and trunk.

Excerpt from GP service manual:

Keyless Entry Receiver (4 door) - Below right rear window trim panel

BCM - Left hand side of dashboard, left of steering column




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u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials




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Re: keyless entry not working on 98

ok so the recever is below the right rear window trim panel then? anyone happen to have any pics too?
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