Turbo vs. supercharger

CAVI2nr97 · #1 06-29-2005, 06:55 PM

first of all the age old question which is better turbo charging or using a compressor kit. im might look to a compressor. bu ti want at least 300-350 hp. because im lookin to beat on some SRT-4s. with the mopar stage 3 kit claim to be gettin around 350. but thats besides the point. i already know how the turbo and the compessors work inside and out so i just need a list of turbos and compressor kits (superchargers) out there. if it were up to me i would get a turbo in a n instant but its the turbo lag that i dont want. thats why im considering a compressor. but the compressor wont supply me with the power i need. Oh and by the way i have a '97 2.2l. i dont want a big list for a 2.4l motor even though i know the list is probabaly longer. thanks

OverAllComa · #2 06-29-2005, 06:57 PM

You won't push 300 out of a 2.2 unless you lay down serious SERIOUS cash.

CAVI2nr97 · #3 06-29-2005, 06:59 PM

and i know that i will defenantly need to build the bottom end and the head to get that kind of powere so i dont want a lot of replys just telling me that. thank you.

OverAllComa · #4 06-29-2005, 07:03 PM

For less cash, swap in a 2.4 and go with the GM Charger if you're looking to use it as a daily driver or any of the centrifugal chargers if you're looking for high-end power. Then go with your lovely exhaust, intake, all that good stuff. Replace the pistons, valves, spring, cams, etc and that may well put you up to your mark.

Turbo'ing a 2.2 isn't uncommon, but they'll usually only push out around 200-230 horses when running around the 13psi mark or so, and you can get that kind of power on a Twin Cam under 6psi with a charger and stock internals.

For more fun, consider a Quad 4 HO or W41 for turbocharging...now that'll haul ass.

Turbo kits tend to fry shifter linkages on the 2.4.

CAVI2nr97 · #5 06-29-2005, 07:19 PM

thanks buddy. i would do a swap i put something up about getting a swap but moneys tight i bearly have enough money to buy anything thats why i was thinking about a compressor. im spending money that shouldnt be spent (college fund) now i just gotta tell my aunt ahaha

OverAllComa · #6 06-30-2005, 07:25 AM

There's a rule of thumb that most people need to observe for these kinds of things

--Don't take it to the track unless you can afford to leave it there.

As far what what you're talking about...a compressor? What the hell are you talking about, b/c if you say something powered by electricity, you need to get smacked so the stupid comes out.

PsychoJJ · #7 06-30-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OverAllComa

As far what what you're talking about...a compressor? What the hell are you talking about, b/c if you say something powered by electricity, you need to get smacked so the stupid comes out.

Take it easy there killer. He ment it as another phrasing for a super charger. Not everyone calls them turbos and super chargers. Growing up with my grandfather turning a wrench I always knew a s/c as a blower untill I got older.

As for the topic at hand. A super charger is more on the stable side and wont end up killing off your engine too quickly unless you mickey mouse the thing in there will never get you to those kinds of numbers with an older 2.2. A hahn stage 2 setup running with a beefed up engine would be your best bet to even get close to your hp goal.

I know we have one 03 eco running the hahn stage 2 with alot of other work done to it is pushing I believe in the 320+ range but then again he just blew the hell out of his motor.

CAVI2nr97 · #8 07-03-2005, 01:37 AM

yea dude all a super charger is is the compressor side of a turbo. just chill im not that stupid. lol.

-Jayson- · #9 07-05-2005, 12:33 PM

ehh your better of doing a swap to a LD9. The Pushrod 2.2L is just to weak to actually make any serious power out of it. Most turboed 2.2L cars only run mid to low 15's. Some can get high 14's. An SRT4 with 350HP its gonna be hitting high 12's low 13's. Its gonna cost way to much to get that 2.2L SOHC 8vavle engine anywhere near 12's. more than it would cost to buy an SRT4 prolly.

finalturismo · #10 07-06-2005, 03:10 PM

well if you wana save money you can easly mod your egine by boring out your valves and buying new valve springs infact i recomend it if you are running nitrous or turbo

OverAllComa · #11 07-06-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by -Jayson-

ehh your better of doing a swap to a LD9. The Pushrod 2.2L is just to weak to actually make any serious power out of it. Most turboed 2.2L cars only run mid to low 15's. Some can get high 14's. An SRT4 with 350HP its gonna be hitting high 12's low 13's. Its gonna cost way to much to get that 2.2L SOHC 8vavle engine anywhere near 12's. more than it would cost to buy an SRT4 prolly.

Who's got a SOHC car?

Last time I checked Base model cavs from that year are Pushrod's.

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