Tulsa, Okla. Opens Creationism Exhibit

[3.4imp]

I was reading in the paper today that the Tulsa zoo opened a creationism exhibit. Thats great, but how are our children supposed to learn anything if what they're being told is untrue. The earth is billions of years old. scientist have proven it. they've found bones of human-like species in africa that are millions of years old. I could go on but I'll keep it short.

[sivic02]

It just shows how stupid us humans are. My stepsister who is 13 i think....somewhere around there. She honestly believes that the world is only 6000 years old. And that God came down and put everything on the earth at once. Dinosaurs, humans, birds, etc, ALL lived at the same time. Thats just not true, but she isnt being taught any different in school. Pretty soon they will start teaching kids that the circulatory system doesnt pump blood but pumps Jesus through your body because Jesus is in our hearts.

[illegal_eagle187]

yeah i gotta go out there sometime and check it out since i live in tulsa!

[AlmostStock]

In the Tulsa zoo? Does that mean our tax $$ are paying for it? I sure hope not.

[sivic02]

Im sure it was a private fund thing. Eagle, bring us pics! I wanna see what this thing is all about.

[Raz_Kaz]

Last time I checked, it was still called "Theory Of Evolution".

[AlmostStock]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

Last time I checked, it was still called "Theory Of Evolution".

Yep, but the evidence keeps getting stronger every day. National Geographic did a cover story titled "was Darwin wrong" a little while back. Very interesting reading.

"Evolution by natural selection, the central concept of the life's work of Charles Darwin, is a theory. It's a theory about the origin of adaptation, complexity, and diversity among Earth's living creatures. If you are skeptical by nature, unfamiliar with the terminology of science, and unaware of the overwhelming evidence, you might even be tempted to say that it's "just" a theory. In the same sense, relativity as described by Albert Einstein is "just" a theory. The notion that Earth orbits around the sun rather than vice versa, offered by Copernicus in 1543, is a theory. Continental drift is a theory. The existence, structure, and dynamics of atoms? Atomic theory. Even electricity is a theoretical construct, involving electrons, which are tiny units of charged mass that no one has ever seen. Each of these theories is an explanation that has been confirmed to such a degree, by observation and experiment, that knowledgeable experts accept it as fact. That's what scientists mean when they talk about a theory: not a dreamy and unreliable speculation, but an explanatory statement that fits the evidence."

[drewh4386]

Personally I don't care anymore. It happened the way it happened.

Just some thoughts from drew.......

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by AlmostStock

Yep, but the evidence keeps getting stronger every day. National Geographic did a cover story titled "was Darwin wrong" a little while back. Very interesting reading.

Less we forget the meaning of science which is "to know" in it's simplest terms. So how do we "know" that Darwinism is true? Fossil records seem to be the most popular choice of prooving evolution in nature, but it doesn't work with the "evolution" of man since there are no fossil records that show the intermediate forms of our species.
So evolution is just a big ass assumption with no actual proof that it exists. Oh, and one last thing. A very little known fact is that Darwin was a racist who was involved with Nietzsche (very fun bunch, let's make the good peolpe do some research on what this creed believed in).

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by illegal_eagle187

yeah i gotta go out there sometime and check it out since i live in tulsa!

Same...well 30 minutes outside of it. I think I need to go check this out some time. I'll be sure though to tell you guys about it.

[lazysmurff]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

A very little known fact is that Darwin was a racist who was involved with Nietzsche (very fun bunch, let's make the good peolpe do some research on what this creed believed in).

oh god, i hate to get off topic, but....

NIETZSCHE WASNT A RACIST!!!! christ almighty, youd think people would actually read his work rather than blindly believe the shit spouted by his nazi sister and her money grubbing attempts at fame

whew, thats done.

[sivic02]

For there to be no evolution a few things have to be constant. First, there can be NO DNA mutations. Second there can be no natural selection, every male has an equal chance to mate successfully, and the mortality rate must be the same for every indivudual. There can be no outsiders entering the population which would screw up the ratio.
All of those things happening in nature is absurd.

Think about the mitochondria in your cells, circular DNA reproduces independently, bilayer membrane, uses products from a cell to make its own food which in turn helps out the cell it is living in. It is a prokaryote living in a eukaryote. That my friend is called a symbiotic relationship. It sure didnt start off like that though. The mitochondria were sucked in to the cells a loooong time ago. Which formed a new cell, a different cell, the cells in your body.

Or we could even go completely nuts and throw in the idea of ontogeny recapitulating phylogeny. Its a little more out there but what it basicaly says is that the things that happen early in development of a species happen early in life (think embryo). Its pretty dang cool.

Evolution is one big ass assumption, there is proof that it exists though. Creationism is one big ass assumption with no proof that it exists excluding what is said in the Bible.

[thrasher]

Evolution is fact, there shouldn't even be any argument whatsoever about it. Natural populations cannot possibly existing without evolving over time. If you dispute that evolution occurs you're either ignorant or uninformed. This creationism museum is a joke.

[Muscletang]

Why can't we have both? God created everything but he also gave it the ability to evolve?

[thrasher]

Yeah, I couldn't deny that as a possibility. It's where creationists reject evolution that it becomes a problem, and I think most creationists do reject evolution