Warning to me about twin turbos

[Zeiss]

Hi guys, I recently called a guy who collects stealths, and was told not to get one if I intend on driving it because of the bad trannys and synchros, amongst other things. He said i would end up spending so much money it wouldnt be worth it and I should just go for the regular R/Ts
Thoughts on this?

[Stealthee]

Bunk. Can the cars be expensive to fix if something goes wrong? Yes. But if you care for them then you will be in great shape. If you have to fix the synchros, then so be it, they are not that much compared to a lot of things. If you only make enough money to just squeek by with bills then no dont get one as you need to have a little reserve for just in case things.

[Zeiss]

ah well, maybe I will just buy the cheaper N/A and put a Ripp SC on it only problem is the site doesnt give a link for the stealth dohc and I think they may be still working on the headers.

[Dreamspawn]

They are just like ne other car if u use'em and abuse'em they will break. But if take car of them and reward urself with the occasional drop of the clutch or stomp on the throttle u will be good.Just my 2 cents.

[Twizted_3KGT]

If you were gonna buy the N/A and SC it then you might as well buy the TT. More than likely you'll run into more problems w/ a SC N/A than the stock TT. Like everyone already said, if you take good care of it, it'll take care of you. The tranny's aren't bad, the synchro's are common of going bad, but if you know how to shift this won't be a problem.

[Wischmaster]

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

The tranny's aren't bad, the synchro's are common of going bad, but if you know how to shift this won't be a problem.

Aye to that.

[YogsVR4]

Its all been said pretty well. Its a more expensive car which usually entails more expensive to repair, but the frequency of repairs is directly related to how well the car is maintained.

[sLADe781]

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

If you were gonna buy the N/A and SC it then you might as well buy the TT. More than likely you'll run into more problems w/ a SC N/A than the stock TT.

REALLY? How so? Because I was planning to SC my N/A sometime in the future.....so you're saying just sell my N/A and buy a TT? What problems?

[talskinyguy]

www.3sxperformance.com for long tube headers.

[Zeiss]

I too am confused of how the SC would be worse for an N/A then the TT and its problems. Especially the Ripp SC

[Stealthee]

Lets see. A stock TT is AWD, so no FWD tire spin, a stock TT comes stock with boost so the ECU can already handle it, a TT comes with lower compression pistons so you can run more boost. Thats just the simplistic way about it. You will not be as strong or fast as a stock TT. Turbos are more effecient than superchargers.

[Hotshot8792]

Originally Posted by sLADe781

REALLY? How so? Because I was planning to SC my N/A sometime in the future.....so you're saying just sell my N/A and buy a TT? What problems?

If you already have the N/A, then go ahead and supercharge it if you want. Basically, if your debating to whether or not buy a TT or buy an N/A then supercharge it, you might as well just buy the TT because it'll hold up to the power much better. Remember, the more power your making, the more of a chance it has of breaking. There shouldnt be anything wrong with S/C'ing your N/A, just make sure you take all the precautionary mods that go with it

[Zeiss]

uh well SCs are much more efficient then turbos, and they last longer. No need for intercoolers, no waiting for them to spool up. The list goes on.

[Wischmaster]

Originally Posted by Zeiss

uh well SCs are much more efficient then turbos, and they last longer. No need for intercoolers, no waiting for them to spool up. The list goes on.

The best I've seen from Ripp was like 276 WHP or something of the sort. I have never, ever, ever... seen a high HP SC'd 3/S. However... I have read of 800-1000HP 3/S that are turbo'd. I would have to disagree with the efficiency portion of superchargers on our cars. The only good ones are roots blowers on big blocks, but that's not what we are talking about.

[Linebckr49]

Originally Posted by Zeiss

uh well SCs are much more efficient then turbos, and they last longer. No need for intercoolers, no waiting for them to spool up. The list goes on.

No, No, yes, and how bout that list???

SCs are LESS efficient than turbos because a supercharger is belt-driven. That is it takes power from the engine to actually run the supercharger, therefore you get what's normally referred to as parasitic loss. Turbochargers do not require engine power to run them: they simply run off exhaust gases, basically the waste of an engine.

Why no need for intercoolers? where do you get that? Superchargers push or pull (however you wanna look at it) air into the engine (just like a turbocharger), and that air will remain ambient temperature unless you cool it. of course, if you cool the air charge, the air will be more dense and thus increasing the air volume... couple that with increased fuel flow and you will get more hp. If you don't want to run an intercooler, then some people cool the air charge with alcohol or methanol.

True, the spool time for Superchargers is much less than that for Turbochargers....BUT superchargers are belt-driven and the only way to increase the boost on an SC is by changing the pulley that drives the supercharger. To change (increase) the boost on a turbocharger you SIMPLY adjust a boost controller (manual or electric). Turning a knob or pushing a button is much easier and simpler than changing a whole pulley, not to imagine the time you would spend changing the pulley.

and the list goes on, huh? i'd be interested to see the other ways in which people think superchargers are better than turbochargers.