Ls7 Gto?

[HotRodDreamer]

So i was talkin to my friend today, and he mentioned something about Pontiac putting LS7's into the GTO starting probably in 2007....Normally I wouldn't mention anything but this guy knows more about cars than I could ever hope to so he wouldn't talk about it lightly, he mentioned that his dad might get a GTO but he'll wait till they put the LS7 (500 hp) into it in a year or two...so that would land us in the middle of the 2006 or 2007 model year...and it would be big news if they were putting them in the 2006 so i'm gonna guess 2007 would sound better. However, there's been talk of just discontinuing the GTO and bringing it back on a different chassis. Whether or not this happens, has anyone heard anything about the possibility of the 500 HP LS7 in a GTO in the future?

[Jaguar D-Type]

The 505 hp LS7 in the new Corvette Z06 is hand-built. It isn't likely to find its way into other GM cars and trucks.

[MrPbody]

There are rumors and propeganda flying in ALL directions. The Chevy boys hope Pontiac dies on the vine. They're even hoping for a "Chevelle" based on Manaro. There IS talk of one of the Caddy chassis being used in '07 for GTO. GM has made no "official" comments on either the demise or continuation of GTO.
As for LS7, WOO-HOO!!! 4 1/8" bore, 4" stroke. They call it "427", but that's Chevy getting involved. It's the same bore/stroke combination as 428 (Pontiac). Gobs of low-end torque, good high-end power. The best of all possible worlds... And I believe, if they continue the car, GTO WILL get the big motor.

Maybe the next chassie will be from Isuzu, and the engine from a Mazda oooohhh a wankel, and to make it a GTO we will use an American trans and 3M backed Arrow heads and the letters GTO.

You know guys I was thinking that we really dont need to build a new GTO, why dont we just re shape the nose on the vette and slap some GTO stickers on it? what ya think?

We could even go in together and pool our money on a company that sells kits to change your ANY car into a GTO! this sounds great, some stickers of "PONTIAC" and "GTO" we could even put a small pry bar in the kit so you can remove your old badges like your SS, or 5.0, Delta 88!

GM sold this idea why cant we???

Our company will be called
"SLOPPY SECONDS GTOS"

[Jaguar D-Type]

None of that sounds like a good idea.

Since they did that to the AussiChevGTO, it's been done.
It was a good idea for GM, it was a good idea for GM to sell to people who just want a fast car and dont care about what it's really made of.

Alot of people don't like this car, not only because its putting American jobs out, but it's not even an American Idea for a car, and the engine is the next fmaily of SBC.

I have a hard time compareing this car to a real world things, but I can't think of anything with such a background getting treated like this.

If Honda and Jeep made a deal and Honda made a body and chassie and Jeep tossed in an Engine and slaped "Jeep" letters on it, some people would jump off buildings!

If Ford stoped making all engine in the US and replaced them with Mazda engines people would not buy cars from them. Even more so if the F150 was made in Japan and shiped here.

I seen a Marine sitcker on the new Titian truck , I was pondering if that jar head knew how many POWs were used/killed in the factorys of the people who made his truck.

We should never forget our past, the good and the bad of it, and I can't forget the rich history of the GTO getting craped on by this unamerican Aussi Chevy wanting to replace/be what the Pontiac GTO was.



Even tho Hemis were faster then GTOs in the long run, they could never beat them light to light on a normal block run. (426Hemi VS same year 389 Tri power)

[96Civ]

I'm not too fond of the new GTO, but in the end, it all comes down to personal preference.

If you dont like them, dont whine about it.

[Jaguar D-Type]

Originally Posted by ramairgto72

Since they did that to the AussiChevGTO, it's been done.
It was a good idea for GM, it was a good idea for GM to sell to people who just want a fast car and dont care about what it's really made of.

Alot of people don't like this car, not only because its putting American jobs out, but it's not even an American Idea for a car, and the engine is the next fmaily of SBC.

I have a hard time compareing this car to a real world things, but I can't think of anything with such a background getting treated like this.

If Honda and Jeep made a deal and Honda made a body and chassie and Jeep tossed in an Engine and slaped "Jeep" letters on it, some people would jump off buildings!

If Ford stoped making all engine in the US and replaced them with Mazda engines people would not buy cars from them. Even more so if the F150 was made in Japan and shiped here.

I seen a Marine sitcker on the new Titian truck , I was pondering if that jar head knew how many POWs were used/killed in the factorys of the people who made his truck.

We should never forget our past, the good and the bad of it, and I can't forget the rich history of the GTO getting craped on by this unamerican Aussi Chevy wanting to replace/be what the Pontiac GTO was.



Even tho Hemis were faster then GTOs in the long run, they could never beat them light to light on a normal block run. (426Hemi VS same year 389 Tri power)

The Nissan Titan is built in the U.S.

People would jump off buildings if Jeep and Honda made an automobile together?

p.s. I don't really care for many Japanese and Korean cars.

Originally Posted by 96Civ

I'm not too fond of the new GTO, but in the end, it all comes down to personal preference.

If you dont like them, dont whine about it.

I will do all the bitching I want!

It's not even a Pontiac, and it's not even American and powered by a Chevy engine, it seems to me that it's something to talk about!If it was not an attack on the integrity of the PMD GTO you would have never heard a peep from me, however since I have a REAL GTO and know what it is to have a GTO and to see this FAKE GTO get all kinda love it makes me sick, and as long as I stick to the rules of this fourm I will keep telling anyone I want what a fake Aussi Chevy GTO this is. All in the form of information


As for a the Jeep thing, you would have to know the Jeep people, hard core Jeep people want Jeeps all Jeep.

[bty_coolio]

Originally Posted by ramairgto72

I will do all the bitching I want!

It's not even a Pontiac, and it's not even American and powered by a Chevy engine, it seems to me that it's something to talk about!If it was not an attack on the integrity of the PMD GTO you would have never heard a peep from me, however since I have a REAL GTO and know what it is to have a GTO and to see this FAKE GTO get all kinda love it makes me sick, and as long as I stick to the rules of this fourm I will keep telling anyone I want what a fake Aussi Chevy GTO this is. All in the form of information


As for a the Jeep thing, you would have to know the Jeep people, hard core Jeep people want Jeeps all Jeep.

good griefe! who really cares. a car is a car but if you like it then you like it. im a ford man and i love the new GTO. i don't care where its made, it catches my eye in appearence and in the interior and i think its a pretty car. now it will never look as good as the last f body ws-6 but it holds it own. if you don't like it then don't buy one. go buy a JEEP or a cavalier. you know being all biased, the new chevy AVEIOS are a daewoo with chevy stickers. the cavalier and sunfire are on the same platform and so just get over it and go on!

[rzkz8k]

Originally Posted by HotRodDreamer

So i was talkin to my friend today, and he mentioned something about Pontiac putting LS7's into the GTO starting probably in 2007

The latest is there will be no 2007 GTO. When I looked through the Powertrain engine usage, I did see the LS3 being used in the 2008 GTO, Caddy CTS-V, and a yet named Chevy product.

The LS3 replaces the LS2 starting in 2008. The LS3 is a 6.1L engine.

This is all open for change but this is the way it is today.

[MrPbody]

Mr. Lutz alluded to a mid-'06 installation of the "big" engine in GTO. The '07 model WILL carry on if sales are there, still based on Monaro. As of now, sales are stronger than they were this time last year.
There's still no "official" word on any of it.

[tuske427]

Nobody says you have to like the current GTO, and you're welcomed to your opinion of it as is anyone else, but the fact is that it is every bit a "real" GTO as any 1964-1974 GTO is/ was. The reason is simple. GM owns the trademark and manufacturers the car. If they call it a GTO, then it's a GTO. End of story. Doesn't matter where the parts came from. It's still a GM company. You mention you have a vintage GTO. You should then be aware of where Pontiac got the GTO name in the first place. You sound very similiar to any diehard Ferrari fan of the era. You're probably aware of how Ferrari folks felt about Pontiac's GTO. Ironic, no?

Originally Posted by ramairgto72

I will do all the bitching I want!

It's not even a Pontiac, and it's not even American and powered by a Chevy engine, it seems to me that it's something to talk about!If it was not an attack on the integrity of the PMD GTO you would have never heard a peep from me, however since I have a REAL GTO and know what it is to have a GTO and to see this FAKE GTO get all kinda love it makes me sick, and as long as I stick to the rules of this fourm I will keep telling anyone I want what a fake Aussi Chevy GTO this is. All in the form of information


As for a the Jeep thing, you would have to know the Jeep people, hard core Jeep people want Jeeps all Jeep.

[rzkz8k]

You didn't hear this from me, but, there is a GTO floating around the Michigan test tracks with an LS7 in it.

Originally Posted by tuske427

Nobody says you have to like the current GTO, and you're welcomed to your opinion of it as is anyone else, but the fact is that it is every bit a "real" GTO as any 1964-1974 GTO is/ was. The reason is simple. GM owns the trademark and manufacturers the car. If they call it a GTO, then it's a GTO. End of story. Doesn't matter where the parts came from. It's still a GM company. You mention you have a vintage GTO. You should then be aware of where Pontiac got the GTO name in the first place. You sound very similiar to any diehard Ferrari fan of the era. You're probably aware of how Ferrari folks felt about Pontiac's GTO. Ironic, no?

I see, since Ferrari used "GTO" as a name for a car that says Pontiac stold it....Gran Turismo Omologato, so Play Station stold Gran Turismo, no it's just a name.
In your head and most of the rest of you, think that since the car "ChevyAussiGTO" is fast, that it should be called a GTO, and thats all you need to make up your minds about it, ....it's fast....

Lots of cars are fast, and they all have a allmost religious feeling at the show room, it's the engine and the car, not the car and the engine it's not me saying this, it's just how it's allways been. Some of you have some wild engine orgy of engines and car thing going on, some of you could not care on pushrod about what engine is in the car.

I think some of you who own that BASTARD or fatherless car had the same kinda high that Nazis had pulling gold out of dead soldiers teeth, "Gold is Gold" "Fast is Fast" GM, Chevy and the Aussis pulled the gold out of the dead PMD GTO, it's the 3M sticker on the car, and to REAL Pontiac People it's like seeing Dead GI Teeth Gold.

At that smallest point I can make is this :
"Pontiac never put anything but a Pontiac engine in a GTO"
"The car GM is calling a GTO now, does not have a PONTIAC engine the current engine is in the family of CHEVY"

And don't take "you know whos" word on it, he does'nt even know what a 72 GTO is.You going to cry again to the forum police because I showed how much you don't know about Pontiacs again, what a baby, he gets his name in a Pontiac book and he has a power trip and tryed to get me removed! I don't like it here and if I get booted i'm fine with it, you guys rub each others backs and run to the aid of one another without proveing me wrong, you quote me as if you answering my questions but you don't."IT'S A GTO BECAUSE GM SAYS IT IS! IT'S A GTO BECAUSE IT'S FAST!Gm says also, now they are saying they are going down the drain. I have been shutting you all down every time because one thing you can't get away from is that it's a CHEVY engine in a IMPORT being sold as a Pontiac GTO!

IT DOSE NOT HAVE A PONTIAC ENGINE!

Now I know other "Super Cars" tend to use any "fast" engine they can get to power the cars they make, but the great ones don't and we all know the Great One will allways be known as the GTO a PONTIAC GTO.

You can refuse what I say but never before has this car pissed off so many car people, just about every mag thats had this car in it has made a slight comment about it being imported and nonPontiac powered. GM even had to shake a cage to the Pontiac people to put the words "PONTIAC" on the dam car!!!!Good Night people can you READ??????????Jag never got this kinda coverage when America bought it!

Sure GM calls it a GTO, but they called the GEO metro a chevy.
How many times has Pontiac changed it's logan? It's a GM hore, it has no real good cars since "F body". Now with the new 2 seater Chevy had taken the that car over to it's area to to fit it with a Small block, it's not being done at a Pontiac Plant, it may be massed in a Pontiac Plant but the mock up was Chevy. If GM does not go under soon then Pontiac's name will go after Buick as Olds did.

I love America more then anybody, but the BS cars like the ChevyAussiGTO GM is selling is digging it's own demise with LIES and poor cars and trucks, this "anything go's" cars without soles crap is it's end.

You can get a Dodge engine in a Dodge, you can get a Ford engine in a Ford and so on, but you can't get a Pontiac engine in a Pontiac!

It's a GM lie backed with 3M tape! GM RIP