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06-09-2005, 10:18 AM
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long and short block
ok well im buying a new engine for my camaro and i was wondering wht the difference is between long block and short block. do long blocks just come with the engine and no manifolds or any thing that bolts on? will they both fit to replave a stock 2.8?(im taking my 2.8 and buying a brand new 2.8 and switching everything i need but its a brand new never sarted longblock 2.8 with 0 miles on it) so whats the diff between longblock and short block?
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 87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom 
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#2
06-09-2005, 10:27 AM
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Re: long and short block
Shortblock = just the crankcase assembly bottom end rotating assmebly.
longblock = almost a complete engine, minus oil pan, and intake assembly (and of course your accessories) and no exhaust manifold.
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#3
06-09-2005, 10:49 AM
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Re: long and short block
oh ok sweet the 2.8 i found was a longblock but it came with oil pan. ok well i guess im getting a new 2.8, enless theres a more powerful engine that i can bolt in without any major modifications....anyone have any ideas, if not im getting the 2.8, i only have 1200 to work with soo if you can think of something lemme know
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87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom
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#4
06-09-2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: long and short block
yeah, unless you can stroke some serious deals at swap meets or whatnot, 1200 won't go far.
anything else besides replacing the stock motor, sure it can be done, depends on your ability(all around ability) and again, financing.
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#5
06-09-2005, 11:22 AM
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Re: long and short block
umm anyone know if i have a 700r4 trans, i do right?? its a automatic with overdrive
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87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom
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06-09-2005, 11:33 AM
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Re: long and short block
OH WELL ITS DA STOCK TRANS, whoops caps was on, but someone on another post said there 2.8 had a 700r4 so i just assumed but i guess he bought a different trans. ummmm so anyone know what trans i have on my 2.8, automatic with overdrive
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87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom
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#8
06-09-2005, 12:00 PM
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Re: long and short block
I may stnad corrected (almost), it bugged me, so I didd a little back pedaling and rechecked. Maybe a 700, but at the time s.b called a 4L60, asame thing, auto 4 spd.
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#9
06-09-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: long and short block
so my transmission is a 4l60?
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87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom
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06-09-2005, 12:20 PM
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Re: long and short block
oh ok thanks
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87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom
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#12
06-09-2005, 01:24 PM
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Re: long and short block
4l60 was computer controlled, thats the difference
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#13
06-09-2005, 01:26 PM
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Re: long and short block
oh so mine is 4l60? not 700r4?
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87 firebird formula ws6 (currently has a old 78 305 with the following upgrades, including lots of miles and stock heads and internals....oops) crane cam cam specs performance valve springs and retainers, flowtech headers, 255 lph fuel pump, holley 600cfm carb, weiand single plane manifold, a healty diet. 14.90 1/4 mile....just wait for the 406 to be finished MY VIDEOS MY PICTURES -Tom
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#14
06-09-2005, 01:27 PM
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Re: long and short block
not for an 88, the computer controlled ones didnt come out till 93 i thought. you should still have a 700R4.
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#15
06-09-2005, 01:31 PM
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Re: Re: long and short block
[quote=89IROC&RS]4l60 was computer controlled, thats the difference
[/QUOTEI was of the impression that as more vehicles were being split amungst rear vs front wheel drive, the inards (gear and band application) were similar, but needed seperation in distinction hence, the 4L60 vs the 4T60 (btw have one in my daily, not cpu controlled) am i wrong?
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