camaro vs...

[matt11583]

rank a 2000ish camaro z28(any one with a ls1) against other sports cars like the 300zx, 3000gt, evo 8, wrx sti, rsx, supra, ect....where does it stand in stragith line, 1/4 and 1/8 mile, drifing, road races, and jus basic performance...i hvae looked at the numbers but i want other opinos on them...

[BlackGT2000]

Everyone is going to have their opinion, but here's mine. I would personally take the 6m Z28 LS1 over any of them. They will all run pretty comparable times stock. The other cars you mentioned are either expensive even in old age or expensive period. The LS1 is pretty affordable for its age. Also the others are turbo charged, the LS1 is just raw muscle and you have power anywhere. You can run great quarter times and you are also effective from a roll with the LS1. The EVO and STI are really totally different all together. They are fast in a quarter and pretty quick but its really due to the launch. If if weren't for AWD they would be 14 second cars and any of the other cars would kill it. You dont always want to do high RPM drops on you clutch with the AWD so I really don't recomend them, because thats how you get your fast 1/4 mile times. The supra is just plain over priced for its age although they can be fast highway cars. You are more or less paying for rarity and its sort of a status symbol. Drifting in my experience is 95 percent driver, any of the RWD cars would be preferable. If you learn to drift you will be able to do it with any of these cars. I would say the LS1 camaro is your best buy for the money and overall performance. I think stock it would either take or come close to all these cars in any category other than a dirt track where the evo and sti are only suited.

[illegal_eagle187]

yeah i agree 6m Z28 LS1 is my pick, 310 hp V8, but if any other one i would go with the supra

[SuperHighOutput]

LS1 Camaro or Firebird, for the money there really isn't a better performance value, except maybe an LT1 F-Body. As for the others the Supra is a fine car, but they are quite pricey, the 300zx n/a isn't even in the same ballpark, the TT 300zx is pretty fast however, the 3000GT is at best iffy in terms of reliability and more than likely slower than an LS1 F-Body, and The Evo and STi are considerably more expensive and only marginally faster if at all. The RSX is a joke in this comparo.

[k3smostwanted]

i dont know what the LS1 camaros run stock but i know they are very quick...mid 13's???

if this is so...the AWD cars mentioned will be very close in 1/4 mile performance. even the 3800lb VR4 will run a mid 13 in the 1/4 mile. but liek someone said, this is all due to AWD. the supra is the only other one that is comparable that is RWD, but it is way over priced.

out of all the cars mentioened...the LS1 camaro is the best bang for your buck. but everyone is gonna have different opinions on what they would buy...

the camaro also probably handles equally as well out of all the cars except the EVO and STI which will probably out run it on any track. and it probably handles quite a bit better than the VR4....

ill say that the LS1 is the best buy...though that does not mean everyone should or would buy one.

[BlackGT2000]

Haha I didn't see the RSX originally, cool car but as far as performance goes its nowhere close to any of the others.

[kman10587]

The AWD cars (3000GT, STi, and Evolution) may run a similar quarter mile time to the Camaro Z28, but take away the launching factor and they aren't nearly as fast. And I don't know where the hell you got the RSX from, it's completely outclassed in every way in this comparison. So, I'd compare the Camaro Z28, Supra TT, and 300ZX TT.

They will all run a pretty similar quarter mile time. I think the Camaro will run the best, followed very closely by the Supra TT, followed by the 300ZX TT. They are all very close, though, and a race between the three would most likely come down to the driver. The handling is equally close. I'd venture to guess that the 300ZX is the best of the bunch, but the Camaro is definitely no slouch. Its handling doesn't get nearly as much credit as it deserves, and anyone who actually participates in autocross or club racing events knows what a dominant force they are in their class. The Supra is the worst handling of the bunch. It just wasn't designed for the race track.

Obviously, the Camaro is quite a bit cheaper than the 300ZX and the Supra, so the fact that it is very competitive with them in terms of performance is impressive. However, there is no such thing as a perfect car, and the Camaro is no exception. The price you pay for such affordable performance is a lack of comfort and build quality. The visibility is horrendous, the interior materials are very cheap and flimsy, the seats and steering wheel are plain-jane, the shifter is clunky and difficult to use, and the driver feedback is vague. If you want raw performance and don't care about anything else, get the Camaro. If you want a more refined car with sophisticated styling and heritage, get the 300ZX. If you want to make unbelievable amounts of power cheaply and reliably, and be the envy of every tuner kid in America, get the Supra.

[TatII]

Originally Posted by kman10587

The AWD cars (3000GT, STi, and Evolution) may run a similar quarter mile time to the Camaro Z28, but take away the launching factor and they aren't nearly as fast. And I don't know where the hell you got the RSX from, it's completely outclassed in every way in this comparison. So, I'd compare the Camaro Z28, Supra TT, and 300ZX TT.

They will all run a pretty similar quarter mile time. I think the Camaro will run the best, followed very closely by the Supra TT, followed by the 300ZX TT. They are all very close, though, and a race between the three would most likely come down to the driver. The handling is equally close. I'd venture to guess that the 300ZX is the best of the bunch, but the Camaro is definitely no slouch. Its handling doesn't get nearly as much credit as it deserves, and anyone who actually participates in autocross or club racing events knows what a dominant force they are in their class. The Supra is the worst handling of the bunch. It just wasn't designed for the race track.

Obviously, the Camaro is quite a bit cheaper than the 300ZX and the Supra, so the fact that it is very competitive with them in terms of performance is impressive. However, there is no such thing as a perfect car, and the Camaro is no exception. The price you pay for such affordable performance is a lack of comfort and build quality. The visibility is horrendous, the interior materials are very cheap and flimsy, the seats and steering wheel are plain-jane, the shifter is clunky and difficult to use, and the driver feedback is vague. If you want raw performance and don't care about anything else, get the Camaro. If you want a more refined car with sophisticated styling and heritage, get the 300ZX. If you want to make unbelievable amounts of power cheaply and reliably, and be the envy of every tuner kid in America, get the Supra.

very very well put kman. drive the cars, straightline power isn't always everything in a car. you pay for more car if you get the japanese imports. however its also more expensive to maintain and modify.

[GForce957]

from a roll do the camaro and other RWD's really outclass the AWD's by alot?

[TatII]

Originally Posted by GForce957

from a roll do the camaro and other RWD's really outclass the AWD's by alot?

i wouldn't say its always true. considering the fact that most twin turbo Z's only puts down 230-240whp and weights 3500 lbs. and they trap at 102mph. a evo puts down 240whp to all 4 wheels, and a sti puts down 260whp to all 4 wheels. so a evo would be neck to neck with a twin turbo z from a roll, and the sti would beat it. however a supra puts down 280whp stock so it would walk all the japanese imports.

[kman10587]

I didn't mean to say that AWD is useless from a roll. It just doesn't make sense to buy an STi or Evo for highway racing, when you could easily get a Supra or a Camaro and get the job done right.

[mrgofast21018]

i dont quite get the arguement that the camaro would be cheaper than a 300zx.... depending on the year, i know ofa guy thats selling a 300zx for 7 and a half. yes its tt, yes it runs fine all thaat jazz. however i havent been able to find an ls1 fbody car for under 13 anywhere. just thought id ask so i dont sound like a douchebag...what are tt300zxs worth these days?

[kman10587]

The only way you're going to find a decently running 300ZX TT for $7,500 is if its a really old model ('90 or '91). The LS1 F-Body, on the other hand, was produced between '98 and '02. Obviously, since it's a much newer car, it's going to cost a lot more. However, compare even a '94 or '95 Camaro Z28 to a '94 or '95 300ZX TT, and the Camaro should definitely be quite a bit cheaper.

[BlackGT2000]

Like any car a deal can be found. Last year my buddy bought a 989Z28 with corvette wheels and ttops and full suspension and a few bolt ons. Really nice looking car, really proved to me what an LS1 can do. It was 11000 last summer. Had 40000 miles.

[01vette]

http://www.thunderracing.com/project...n=read&pgid=69 ---- check that out its a trans am but same thing has camaro lol