The F1 has been beat

[Muscletang]

I just got the latest Motortrend and they had a little thing about the new world's fastest supercar. I'm just going to type in some of the highlights I've seen.

Bugatti Veyron 16.4

Engine: 8.0L W-16, 64 valves with 4 turbos
Power: 987 hp @ 6000 rpm 922 lb tq @ 2200 rpm
All Wheel Drive
0-60 claim: under 3.0
0-124 claim: 6.0
0-186 claim: 14.0
Bugatti claims the Vyron will brake from 252 mph to a standstill in less than 10 seconds.

Top speed: 252 mph

[drunken monkey]

y'know what?
i'm not really impressed......

if it were a 6.0 naturally aspirated car with say, around 600 bhp and it could beat the 10 year old F1 then i'd be impressed.
as it is, a 981 bhp car (with twice the amount of torque the F1 has) that can go faster, well, doesn't surprise me.

[BlackGT2000]

Thats a damn fast car. Who cares about its displacement and wheather or not its natural aspirated. Its expensive enough that it should have 900hp. 252mph! thats outrageous.Can you imagine that shit passing you when you are going down the highway?

[drunken monkey]

cars can go and have gone faster for less horsepower.
point is, if it didn't end up faster then something is seriously wrong.

[christophv]

It was beaten by the Koenigsegg CCR before anyways.

And I don't think the Veyron is a very special car. It's large and heavy and not very beautiful at all.

[DinanM3_S2]

The Veyron is the difference between having taste and just having money.


1) Its been plagued by more problems then any other supercar on the market. While VW still claims that it can go 252mph, it has yet to do so. During a test run to impress potential buyers, the driver lost control of the car at 230mph. In order to protect customers, the Veyron is to be limited at 215mph. They promise to attempt one run with an unrestricted car, god save the driver. Apparently it has huge problems with roadhold, drag, and downforce. Oh, and it weighs over twice as much as a McLaren F1.

2) Its ugly as sin, and the interior is one of the gaudiest things I have ever seen.

3) Theres all sorts of talk about how fast this will be in a straight line, but put this on a track against the McLaren F1, and my money would be on the McLaren. The Veyron will probably never see LeMans, let alone a #1 finish.

4) The CCR is a much better performance car. Power to weight ratio is much better.

5) If I had that kind of money, I'd take either an F1 LM or an Enzo, Ford GT, and a BMW 760iL.

Needless to say, I don't like this car

[crayzayjay]

I'd take an Enzo over the Veyron in a heartbeat. And i'm not even that keen on the Enzo...

[BlackGT2000]

Originally Posted by DinanM3_S2

The Veyron is the difference between having taste and just having money.


1) Its been plagued by more problems then any other supercar on the market. While VW still claims that it can go 252mph, it has yet to do so. During a test run to impress potential buyers, the driver lost control of the car at 230mph. In order to protect customers, the Veyron is to be limited at 215mph. They promise to attempt one run with an unrestricted car, god save the driver. Apparently it has huge problems with roadhold, drag, and downforce. Oh, and it weighs over twice as much as a McLaren F1.

2) Its ugly as sin, and the interior is one of the gaudiest things I have ever seen.

3) Theres all sorts of talk about how fast this will be in a straight line, but put this on a track against the McLaren F1, and my money would be on the McLaren. The Veyron will probably never see LeMans, let alone a #1 finish.

4) The CCR is a much better performance car. Power to weight ratio is much better.

5) If I had that kind of money, I'd take either an F1 LM or an Enzo, Ford GT, and a BMW 760iL.

Needless to say, I don't like this car

I agree with you there. I would rather have the Enzo or the Ford GT than this car. I love the enzo but if I had to buy one to drive it would be the GT because from what I heard its easier to drive(as far as supercars go). If I was going for top end runs though the Enzo takes the cake from everything Ive read. It pulls harder in the top end than many other high performance cars do 0-60. Also its supposed to be extremely stable at 200+mph.

[youngvr4]

i'd take the Zonda 7.3 anyday over it, and mclaren is still king in my book, though the koeniggsegs is starting to take the cake for me

[mason_RsX]

Never seen the interior, but it doesn't look particularly good to me, and doesn't have the style or prestige that the F1 has seen, but mabe time will tell

But, what I am interested in is how hey solved their big problems... Did the mag say how they created enough downforce to keep the car on the street? also, they were having alot of problems keeping the engine cool (with 4 turbos its no wonder) I wonder how they fixed that problem...

[Jimster]

I'd even take an Audi Murcielago over the Veyron.

[NISSANSPDR]

I agree w/Jimster and crazyjay...the Veyron...w/it's 987hp means absolute jack to me...

[MITSU-EVO]

The Veyron is just another stupid attempt to take over Mc Laren's throne. Anybody can pull it off with an engine meant to fit a Boeing 747(8 LITERS; 1001bhp). I couldn't agree more with Jim, Jay, and Dinan M3_S2.

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by Jimster

I'd even take an Audi Murcielago over the Veyron.

i know audi owns lambo, but do they really call it the audi murc over there jim?

[beef_bourito]

I think it's cool that a car manufacturer had the balls to build a car that has almost 1000 horsepower stock. However, even if it does beat the mclaren, it doesn't seem to be nearly as stable at high speeds and it probably wont beat it on a circuit. anyway, where are you going to be able to go that fast other than an oval track or something? or of course the autobahn. I'd take the mclaren, better handling, more control at high speeds, better on the track. 1000 hp and highest top speed is just for bragging rights.