Propane welder

[CashMoneyInd]

Well, I was watching 2 Fast 2 Furious at like 2:00 this morning ( yeah I know, omg hes watching 2F2F) but there is a part where he threatens a cop with a rat under a bucket on his stomach. He heats the bucket with the welder and the rat starts eating through his stomach and the guy starts bleeding all over the place with his intestines puoring over the table....

Sorry got carried away. But the welder thing he has is like a welder top thing screwed on a mini propane tank or something like that. I was wondering if it would work on a car. If so, where can you buy them and how much do they cost

[ec437]

Originally Posted by CashMoneyInd

Well, I was watching 2 Fast 2 Furious at like 2:00 this morning ( yeah I know, omg hes watching 2F2F) but there is a part where he threatens a cop with a rat under a bucket on his stomach. He heats the bucket with the welder and the rat starts eating through his stomach and the guy starts bleeding all over the place with his intestines puoring over the table....

Sorry got carried away. But the welder thing he has is like a welder top thing screwed on a mini propane tank or something like that. I was wondering if it would work on a car. If so, where can you buy them and how much do they cost

lol... they call those a torch.

[mike@af]

Those are torches. Used for heating...

[TheSilentChamber]

Like they said, just a torch, can be found anywhere for around $20.

[CashMoneyInd]

Would a torch wor on a car, e.g. putting metal plates in when you shave the door handles

[TheSilentChamber]

No.

[CBFryman]

Small Flux Welder is what you need to look for...

but you may as well get a good one with good potential current flow because as your skill increase you will do more and more advanced projects that require more penetration or thicker metal...and a little 90a $100 Flux welder wont do the job.

[mike@af]

I would not reccomend a flux cored welder for sheet metal. Flux cored requires more heat and will cause more warping of the sheet. What you should use (for a MIG) would be some .025 wire with a Argon/CO2 sheilding gas. Or you can use a TIG or Oxy Acetelyne welder.

[TheSilentChamber]

You cant use an oxycetalyne for welding sheet metal, well sheet metal that you care about not warping.

[mike@af]

Originally Posted by TheSilentChamber

You cant use an oxycetalyne for welding sheet metal, well sheet metal that you care about not warping.

Thats something I am going to disagree with. A lot of welding for chopper gas tanks (18gage) is done with o/a. Many metal shapers choose O/A for welding sheet because the HAZ is spread out much more which reduces shrinking unlike the MIG and TIG. Also, o/a is often choosed for sheet because the welds are strong, yet they are very soft (unlike MIG) so they can be planished, wheeled, and shaped. Talk to any metal shaper, most of them will say O/A (a lot will say TIG because its faster).

[TheSilentChamber]

Well if your right on the warping, you still have to atmit that with him not knowing how to weld, it wouldnt be a good idea for him to try that method. It took me months and months to get the hang of o/c welding, and I'm an experienced welder.

[CBFryman]

i mentioned flux welder because most cheap "MIG" welders are just flux welders and you have to buy all this extra shit to make it a real MIG welder

[mike@af]

Just buy the conversion to make it MIG for $100.

[CBFryman]

or buy a better real MIG welder in the first place

[mike@af]

Originally Posted by CBFryman

or buy a better real MIG welder in the first place

Whats the difference between the Lincoln MIG 185 and the Lincoln MIG 185 (minus MIG conversion)? Nothing except one doesnt have conversion. They can both be "real" MIG's.