Looking for the name of an Air Intake

Sicc Si · #1 06-01-2005, 01:12 PM

i want to get one of those cold air intakes, that has an attachment in the middle of it, so like when it rains i can detatch the extension and have a short ram intake.

do any of you know the term or the name of this particular part, so i can look it up and buy it. cant seem to find anything on ebay.

thanks in advance

-Sicc

turtlecrxsi · #2 06-01-2005, 01:15 PM

All the ones I've seen come in 2 parts for a 4th gen civic/2nd gen crx. A lot of people don't use the bottom part and they just stick the filter on the long part that goes to the throttle body. The only other difference I've seen is the cheap ebay cai's have a bottom (short) tube with only one bend so the filter just hangs on it vertically which sucks IMO. Get a good name brand CAI... bottom tube should have two bends so the filter sits horizontally (ram air style)...

CivicSpoon · #3 06-01-2005, 01:35 PM

Are you talking about the AEM bypass? But turtlecrxsi is right, just get a regular CAI and detach it.

TheSilentChamber · #4 06-01-2005, 01:48 PM

Weither it its vertical or horazontal the filter will suck the same. Dont waiste money on a name brand piece of bent pipe. A round tube isnt an exact science. But like they said,all your cold air intakes are going to be two part due to installation and shipping reasons, so all you have to do is pop off the bottom and stick the filter up top. But unless your filter is going to get completely submurged under water you dont have anything to worry about.

90civicrider · #5 06-01-2005, 03:06 PM

1 piece tube's DO give you more HP gains. Less restriction inside the pipe, it creates smoother airflow.
All the Cheap knock off brand's are 2 piece.
My AEM is a solid 1 piece. Looks better too.

Sicc Si · #6 06-01-2005, 03:15 PM

Yeah i never knew/thought about it being shipped in 2 parts, meaning they are all able to be converted to short air. Ok so just look for a familiar name like AEM or something and im gtg.

Thanks again! >.>

Sicc Si · #7 06-01-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSilentChamber

Weither it its vertical or horazontal the filter will suck the same. Dont waiste money on a name brand piece of bent pipe. A round tube isnt an exact science. But like they said,all your cold air intakes are going to be two part due to installation and shipping reasons, so all you have to do is pop off the bottom and stick the filter up top. But unless your filter is going to get completely submurged under water you dont have anything to worry about.

Ok thats fine that i get more performance with a solid piece, makes sense, but what if i look outside and it is rainy. Would it be a bad idea to take the tube off and have the filter just on the manifold directly, just for the few days of heavy rain? Or would that dirty my filter way faster?

turtlecrxsi · #8 06-01-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 90civicrider

1 piece tube's DO give you more HP gains. Less restriction inside the pipe, it creates smoother airflow.
All the Cheap knock off brand's are 2 piece.
My AEM is a solid 1 piece. Looks better too.

Are you for real? Even if it is only one piece and goes all the way to the front bumper you're not making or rather freeing up any hp moreso than my 2 piece that goes to the bumper with the AEM bypass in between the two pieces. The air flow is as smooth as silk as far as I'm concerned.

turtlecrxsi · #9 06-01-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sicc Si

Ok thats fine that i get more performance with a solid piece, makes sense, but what if i look outside and it is rainy. Would it be a bad idea to take the tube off and have the filter just on the manifold directly, just for the few days of heavy rain? Or would that dirty my filter way faster?

Don't worry about the rain. I just drove to work this morning and went through a deep ass puddle hydroplaning and no problem. Hell, I even went on a dirt road the other day where there was a dip down with water trickling in it like a creek and no damn problem... even out horsed an suv following me out of the hole... either that or they just suck. Get the CAI and give your engine cold air or get the short ram and give your engine the hot...

90civicrider · #10 06-01-2005, 03:32 PM

Personally I'd stick with any brand that can provide you with Dyno charts.
eBay brand's can't even come close, that's why they arnt dyno'd, and that's why they only cost $29.99. You get what you pay for.

Here's a dyno on a 2000 Celica. Not a Honda, but you'll get the drift.
Here's the webpage: Click Here

the 2 dynos are extremely similar.. the only 2 things I really notice are exactly what Ive explained before

1) The AEM has alot more torque in the low rpm's than the PHR does.. It actually gained 11ft/lbs of torque over the phr at 3000rpms..

2) The PHR has a power surge at 6,000rpms. The AEM does not kick in nearly as harsh but as you can see at about 6500 it comes back up and surpasses the power the PHR is making..

turtlecrxsi · #11 06-01-2005, 03:36 PM

I'm not suggesting ebay. You misunderstood. I have an injen intake and it's 2 piece. I wish I had a digi camera to show exactly what I'm referring to...

90civicrider · #12 06-01-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlecrxsi

Are you for real? Even if it is only one piece and goes all the way to the front bumper you're not making or rather freeing up any hp moreso than my 2 piece that goes to the bumper with the AEM bypass in between the two pieces. The air flow is as smooth as silk as far as I'm concerned.

Actually it does.. Proove me wrong and I'll be a beliver. The reson you gain more HP from a CAI is because it is sucking colder air, directly from the front of the car, not hot air from within the engine bay. The inside of the intake tube's are diferent. hold 2 of them together and look at the scribing marks on the inside. The scribe's on the cheaper intake create a air turbulance, much like airplane turbulance, if that air just bounce's around in the intake tube.

Your situation is different, the AEM By-pass valve doesnt do a damn thing unless your filter is completly submerged in water, then it sucks through the bypass valve. However the cheaper tube WILL give you less HP gains.

90civicrider · #13 06-01-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlecrxsi

I'm not suggesting ebay. You misunderstood. I have an injen intake and it's 2 piece. I wish I had a digi camera to show exactly what I'm referring to...

Ohyeah.. Injen is a excellent brand.. Like I said you get what you pay for.

CivicSpoon · #14 06-01-2005, 03:54 PM

It doesn't even matter, it's a CAI not a turbo. At most you'll pick up a few hp and tq, nothing that you'd be able to feel or notice compaing a 2 piece to a 1 piece. It's not physically possible to feel 2 or 3 hp and/or tq throughout a power band. Expecially because each CAI will give you more hp in some areas and the other will give it to you in other areas. A CAI is a CAI, just go with a reliable/well known company and something you can afford.

turtlecrxsi · #15 06-01-2005, 04:01 PM

Now I feel like I've been ripped off. I paid $200 for my CAI and I always thought it was Injen because I could've sworn the guy who runs Meanstreets in Greenville, SC told me it was. There was no name on the box and it came from California. It doesn't quite look as cheap as the ebay ones though. But how the fuck are you supposed to use an AEM water bypass like I am if your intake is a one piece?

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