paint help w/pictures

[justink]

This is my first kit and my first time using an airbrush. I used a spray can before getting the airbrush and the color was very glossy but not very smooth. When I use the airbrush it's very smooth but not very glossy at all....kind of looks like a mix between glossy black and flat black. Any ideas or suggestions?

This is a Revell Super Stallion Mustang kit. (I'm not following the color scheme)


P.S. Jay, can I get one of those "welcome to AF" welcomes from you?

[Jay!]

I think you're the first to ask.


What brand paints are you using? Enamel, acrylic or lacquer?

[hiro]

I tried using airbrush for body and that's what happened too, I thought it's not enough paint coming out of the nozzle, need a more high flow one. I switched back to spray cans

[justink]

Thanks Jay

I'm using Model Masters Enamel (Gloss Black FS 17038)

Would using less thinner help at all?

[daggerlee]

You gotta lay a thick heavy coat with the airbrush after three or four mistcoats to get that glossy shine, it should look very "wet" but not enough to run and drip.

Light coats are good for the interior and suspension

If you have a double action airbrush, push all the way down and pull all the way back. You might want to spray from a little further so you don't overflood it with paint

Also, if you turn up the PSI on your air source to 20-30 PSI then the paint will come out quicker too.

[Tyrell]

Hmmm...

Matt surfaces coming from gloss paint usually signifies that you're either:

a) Spraying from too far away.
(The paint is drying before it hits the model).

b) Not applying enough paint.

Which airbrush do you have (single or double action)?

What are you using as a propellant?

(Roughly) how many PSI was it set to?

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Your paint should be "thinned" to the consitency of milk.

Are you using an appropriate thinner for that type of paint?

For Enamels, you would probably be better using "Lacquer" thinners. If you're using Acrylics, I'd recommend using IPA (IsoPropyl Alcohol).

Start by thinning your paint down to a ratio of 50% paint with 50% thinners, then move either way depending on the results.

Getting "Glossy" results from an airbrush requires *lots* of practice.

Don't get disheartened if your first attempts look bad - there's always a way of resucing even the worst of paintjobs, believe me!!!

If you've applied enough coats, you can always polish to a shine by using a light polishing compound like "Autoglym".

Regards
Mark

[wkma7six]

Justink,
The same thing happened when I first learned the airbrush techniques. You can still fix that finish easily. Just use a fine sandpaper to smooth down the texture (sorry don't know which grade to recommend first as I can not see the surface of you paint finish) and if you don't sand through to the plastic and the surface is smooth enough you can just shoot a layer of clear top coat. If you're using Testor's try to use the Boyd's colors Hi-Gloss clear-does not yellow. Oh use the tips that the guys provided. Thin to the consistency of about milk (fresh milk!) and you should be fine. If your airbrush came with several tips, use the medium one. Spray about 5"-6" away from model at the consistency of milk (this is what works for me at about around 15 PSI -varies with weather and thinner types). Oh check your air pressure by spraying the paint on a test object first. Good luck!!
Walter

[justink]

I'm using Model Master Airbrush Thinner (it says on the bottle) "Use to Thin Testor & Model Master Enamels for Air Brushing". I use an air compressor set to 40 psi. The airbrush is double action. Thanks for all the help and tips.

[daggerlee]

40 PSI seems awfully high. I'd cut that down in half to 20 and airbrush 2-4" away from the model, and thin the gloss black with 3:2 paint/thinner or fresh milk, whichever one works for you.

[Tyrell]

Originally posted by daggerlee
40 PSI seems awfully high. I'd cut that down in half to 20 and airbrush 2-4" away from the model,

I'd agree, here. 40PSI is *way* too high. I usually blow paint at 15-20PSI...

At 40PSI, the paint will be *very* dry when it hits the car. I'm surprised that it doesn't have a texture like sandpaper, too!!!

...and thin the gloss black with 3:2 paint/thinner or fresh milk, whichever one works for you.

Eh?

Fresh MILK as thinners???

Never used that to thin paint before - where d'ya learn that one?

(or did someone misunderstand the earlier posts)???

Regards
Mark

[daggerlee]

Whoops! I meant the consistency of fresh milk or 3:2 paint/thinner, sorry for any confusion that may have caused

[justink]

that sucks! I just put 1/3 fresh milk in all my paint jars to thin it out





just kidding

[supermeneksyen]

hai, i'm a new boy here . fist using airbrush, veryy badd now..still very, very baddd.. . now i'm only watch and
guys,.. could you help me how to use airbrush on body <model car> WITH PICTURE, pleaseee.... i know..on guiddy' guide <subaru wrx> have a complete guide how to bulit a car. i'm compleatly understand..but... where's the picture that guiddy's on action <paint the car bodies> .
i have 3 kit's completed..all of them..very sucks...8 still at their boxes.
somebody...:help: ..
sorry bad english :shocked: , i'm from indonesia.....<stupid in english
:buck ...


regards

supermeneksyen