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I sincerely hope everyone reads this ~ really reads it ...
As many of you know, I host a page on my Site dedicated to those people who have lost their lives in the MR2.
Many of you are aware that we have lost two lives inside of two different MR2s in the past month and at least one other earlier this year. These are important stories for me personally, since I have been through so many accidents and also for us as a community because there will be more. The only difference between the following tragic story and my own accidents and some of your accidents, is a few feet, a few seconds ... Over the past few years I have received many e-mails from survivors, parents and friends of those stories on my pages (I also have a page on street racing deaths). I always ask permission to share the personal side of the story, but it is usually declined. Tonight, a very brave young man has given me permission to share his story. I sincerely hope the community receives his words well. This is a time to feel and to learn, not to critique. This is the e-mail I received last night: Quote:
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Thats very sad, I still dont get it though, how she died I mean. the article says "fatal wound" but that dosent explain much. How fast was he going? In his reply he says estimated 40-45 mph but thats dosent sound like a very strong crash. Do you have pics of the car?
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Re: I sincerely hope everyone reads this ~ really reads it ...
That is quite the tragic story. I took the time to read the story on your website as well.
To Kevin: It is very true that fate chooses whomever it may please. There is nothing you can do. I'm sorry about your loss. Although, there is nothing that can be done. As you described, Samantha seemed to be the choice girl that most here could only dream to meet. I don't know how I would be able to cope with such a loss. You are a lucky man for ever knowing a young lady such as her. Be greatful that you shared those times with her, and be even more greatful for ever getting to know her. I wish you the best of luck in life and for Samantha, may she rest in peace. |
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Re: I sincerely hope everyone reads this ~ really reads it ...
I have exchanged more e-mails with him and he is going to try to get photos to me of the car.
This was an MR2 Spyder (converitble). Although 40-45 does not seem like much, have you ever lost it at an autocross at that speed? That is plenty for a fatal impact. Accidents are a strange dynamic, a lot of things could have happened.
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Ive crashed at those speeds and even higher but yes you are absolutely right, in an accident anything can happen. Its just so sad man, I cant imagine the feeling of having something like that happen. Its terrible.
What year was the MR2? the SW20 like ones you have is preaty thick, the newest model is a bit more flimsy, I have never been in a AW11 so I dont know how strong they are. I guess I just feel like its not fair, I hit a tree at about 60 mph in my SRT-4. I lost control at about 85 and travelled about 45 feet then wrapped it around the tree on my side. all I kept thinking after I read the esstimated 40 mph is "its not freaking fair how someone so young and full of such promise can go in such a way". Scum like me survive even worst and a 40 mph collision kills her. thats why I was asking the nature of the injury. I knew a guy about 8 years ago, his car was hit by a minivan at about 25mph, the van t-boned him on the driver side, he had a screw driver on the side of the door and it jammed into his side and perforated the liver, killed him 4 days later. so yeah this thing do happen but they are very hard to accept. Like that Iron Maiden song goes, "only the good die young".
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Did you see her photo? .... so beautiful, such a loss.
They both seem like such really good people. I can't imagine what Kevin has gone through since the accident. As for how the MR2s are constructed, there is a lot of steel in them (at least the SW20s). That's why they weigh so much (almost 3000 lbs). I can't speak for the Spyders as I have no experience. I have wrecked badly many times in the MK1s and the MK2s though and they hold up well. I suspect a lot of you have seen the in-car video of my friend Fabio rolling his MK2 at 110 mph at the hill climb event
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Damn...thats a terrible situation, I can't begin to imagine how he must feel, words im sure can't describe it...I've never been in an accident, but I have been pretty close to a few major accidents on stupid things that I know better not to do...Give Kevin my condolences and let him know there always AF in case hes got a few other lessons he wants to teach
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Re: I sincerely hope everyone reads this ~ really reads it ...
That must suck for him. So he was going in a 15 mph corner at 35-40, skidded, and hit what?
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The trusses of a bridge apparently.
If you look at the news artcile on my Web site, there are photos. (not of the car yet). He has explained in a 2nd e-mail that their is a pending lawsuit against the county for having that section of the road porrly marked.
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Before I comment in any great length or detail...was he or was he not speeding, I can't really tell from what he wrote?
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My condolences. I've visited that part of your site a few times. Must be kind of hard to maintain, dealing with the people who were directly affected. The story about the man that kidnapped, raped, and killed the girl for her car still sticks with me. It's far too bad that this tragedy had to happen. I know this destroyed more than just one life. Thank you for the insight, Jek. You're a good man.
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CassiesMan, my understanding is that he was within 5-10 mph of the posted limit, but he came upon a much slower curve that was poorly marked.
It's a mistake any of us could have made. I know I have done worse, but was much luckier. The thing to remember here is that anything can happen, no matter how in control you think you are. Two summers ago I was traveling on a road that I know very well and was banging out some turns at a healthy rate. For god knows what reason, I overly slowed down for a particularly hard curve ... as I came around the turn I was confronted with a HUGE dumptruck stuck in the middle of the road. If I would have been at my previous pace I would have had a severe collision. A friend of mine, entered an "auto ramp" on a highway in Italy a few years ago on his motorcylce. The auto ramps are strictly for cars and bikes only. Unfortunately, an 18-wheeler had tried to enter it and got stuck on a cure that was way too shapr for the truck ... my friend collided with the back of the truck and shortened one of his vertebrea ![]() Anything can happen ...
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Re: I sincerely hope everyone reads this ~ really reads it ...
Well its always a bad lick when someone gets seriously hurt or killed in a car accident. I'm sure he's wished a million times over that it would have been him and not her killed (I know I would). But, I've always believed that when your number comes up, then thats that. No matter if you're flying down a stretch of road or setting on the couch, when its your time nothing can save ya.
And just from reading his email to you (haven't visited your site), it sounds like one of those freak things, and you know, its always those freak 1 in a million incidents that get ya. Its always those wrecks that dont necessarly look bad that are the worse (remember Dale Earnhardt's fatal accident at Daytona??). Anyways, these things happen and its always very sad but that's just part of life I reckon. Judging from his email to you, he seems to "get it" that when its your time its your time. I know for me, that would be the only thing that would help get me through something like that.
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That story slapped me in the face and strikes me right in my hart. This is truely sad. It happens to the best of us. As this story proves. May Samantha rest in peace, and you Kevin. Try to live yr life as good as you can, you have done nothing wrong. These are just typical, wrong place at the wrong time things. It's not ment to be but it happens anyway.
This is one of them i will never forget.
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This story reminds me of a very nearly fatal accident i was involved in with my fiance in the passenger seat. A 91 suburban ran a red light at 55 while i was turning left. I saw them at the last minute and hit the gas but i was in an exploder. I looked at the car afterwards and if the suburban would have hit an inch or two closer to the front of the car it would have definently killed megan and probably me too. That shook me up real bad for about a week or two. Anyways the point of my story is that i know the situation and i really feel for you. My condolences.
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