bad hyundi

[v-tec]

Does any one here have a hyundi? I think that this would have to be the worse car ever. I mean on paper it might seem like a good car but its a car people drive to look like they have a good car but who are they fooling. Plus it looks terrible done up. Who would want to drive one of these cars? soomeone who thinks they know everything about cars thats who.

[Jimster]

I think the Getz, Tuscon and Coupe are fantastic cars given thier price.

[Chris V]

Originally Posted by v-tec

Does any one here have a hyundi? I think that this would have to be the worse car ever. I mean on paper it might seem like a good car but its a car people drive to look like they have a good car but who are they fooling. Plus it looks terrible done up. Who would want to drive one of these cars? soomeone who thinks they know everything about cars thats who.

Actually, they are cars for people who really don't give a sh!t what other people think, and are getting a good value for their money. Wanna show where in JD Power or anywhere else that modern Hyundais are the worst cars ever?

I'd rather be someone who "thinks" they know about cars than someone like you who actually doesn't.

Of course, I've been buiding race cars, sports cars, and customs out of domestics and imports for 27 years, so what do I know?

How old are you, again?

[Twizted_3KGT]

Hyundai's are cheap, ugly, and cheap. Most of all they're cheap. But if I was cheap and wanted to go slow, i'd buy one cuz they come with a 10 year warranty and I haven't seen many problems with them...other than the door panels falling apart after 2 years...but hey it's cheap what you expect. It's a good value car.


CHEAP!

[twospirits]

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

Hyundai's are cheap, ugly, and cheap. Most of all they're cheap. But if I was cheap and wanted to go slow, i'd buy one cuz they come with a 10 year warranty and I haven't seen many problems with them...other than the door panels falling apart after 2 years...but hey it's cheap what you expect. It's a good value car.
CHEAP!

Its funny, they said the same thing about Honda and Toyota when they first came out. Yet Hyundai has taken half the time to reach the point as opposed to those two. But I am curious, you mention cheap. Cheap in what way. Cheap in price, cheap in value, cheap in materials? Cause either way you look at it, the Hyundais come out ahead of the game in those areas when compared to other makes in the same category and values.

As for the original post and poster...

Originally Posted by v-tec

Does any one here have a hyundi? I think that this would have to be the worse car ever. I mean on paper it might seem like a good car but its a car people drive to look like they have a good car but who are they fooling. Plus it looks terrible done up. Who would want to drive one of these cars? soomeone who thinks they know everything about cars thats who.

Yes, I do. I and quite a few others if you look within the Hyundai sections. This is besides the countless other Hyundai websites out on the net and the millions of Hyundai owners throughout the world. I'll be the first to admit, "I have a Hyundai and I am proud to say so". It has been the most reliable, trouble free vehicle and the only one that I have owned that I can say that. I've had other makes and driven countless more and the Hyundai is by far the best and trouble free. Looks aren't everything and speed isn't either, but to downright say they are the worst car ever, is immature, incorrect and sadly unbecoming of an automotive enthusiasts. As for them looking good on paper only, you are sadly mistaken. Search around and you will see that Hyundai is a company to look out for. With constant awards and customer satisfaction that has left more noticable brands far behind. As for looking terrible done up, that is just a matter of opinion. Not every vehicle and or its style will appeal to everyone. Some like it some don't . I don't like the scions or the hummer but you don't see me knocking/bashing them like the way you just did to Hyundai. A true auto enthusiats doesn't do that. They appreciate the pros and cons of each and every vehicle. So before you go out and voice your opinion on an open forum acting like you know what you are talking about and posting questions and remarks that do not belong in said forums, do yourself the favor and get the facts straight before voicing them or you will make yourself look like a fool.
Then again with answers to questions such as "what is NOS" like this...

Originally Posted by v-tec

NOS is also laughing gas

and how much does it cost to refill a bottle of Nitrous" you say this...

Originally Posted by v-tec

Just go down to your local hospital and ask for a bottle or two of laughing gas or mild anesteic, that would do the trick.

what else can we expect from you.
Stop posting imature posts in the technical sections and shape up or get shipped out. Your choice.




TS out

[Chris V]

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

Hyundai's are cheap, ugly, and cheap. Most of all they're cheap. But if I was cheap and wanted to go slow, i'd buy one cuz they come with a 10 year warranty and I haven't seen many problems with them...other than the door panels falling apart after 2 years...but hey it's cheap what you expect. It's a good value car.


CHEAP!

1) not everyone who buys a car is a testosterone addled teenage boy that has to race from stoplight to stoplight.

2) we got an '02 Accent GS as a, yes, cheap economy car for commuting (I have a few custom projects as well as a sports car for fun driving). it's 3 years old. Want to point out where the door panels have fallen apart, or anything else? In fact it's in great shape.

Again, perfect as a second car or as a commuter.

[Twizted_3KGT]

lol, what the hell?? why are you defending yourselves?? i'm 21, not a testosterone filled teenager racing from stoplight to stoplight, i race at the track only, dont come at me like that. To fullfill your curiosity Hyundai's are cheap in value, any car under $20k when new is cheap...thats the idea behind the production of them...cheap economy car for the middle-lower class. To be completely honest I dont care what you drive or its condition, I work in a shop and i've seen quite a few '00 Hyundai's falling apart, just personal experience. What happened to your first post in this thread??? "Actually, they are cars for people who really don't give a sh!t what other people think" What happened to that? now you give a sh!t? I said good value car and i havent seen many problems with them, it is what it is. I never put down Hyundai I just stated facts...cheap, slow, ugly IMO. You don't like it too bad.

Edit: So you're saying that a Hyundai holds its value better than all other makes/models in its class?? Cuz that's a flat out lie.

[twospirits]

Ummm first of all, if you are responding to numerous posters I would appreciate it, if you could split your responses appropiately so we know who you are responding too and we can respond to you accordingly.

Therefore...

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

lol, what the hell?? why are you defending yourselves?? i'm 21, not a testosterone filled teenager racing from stoplight to stoplight, i race at the track only, dont come at me like that.

I am assuming this is directed to Chris, so I won't answer it.

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

To fullfill your curiosity Hyundai's are cheap in value, any car under $20k when new is cheap...thats the idea behind the production of them...cheap economy car for the middle-lower class.

They are cheap in price that is true, but does that make them cheap overall. Its a matter of opinion. Actually my Hyundai was over the 20K price tag.

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

To be completely honest I dont care what you drive or its condition, I work in a shop and i've seen quite a few '00 Hyundai's falling apart, just personal experience. What happened to your first post in this thread??? "Actually, they are cars for people who really don't give a sh!t what other people think" What happened to that? now you give a sh!t? I said good value car and i havent seen many problems with them, it is what it is. I never put down Hyundai I just stated facts...cheap, slow, ugly IMO. You don't like it too bad.

I believe you are directing this to Chris, not me. I can't speak for Chris. But just in case it was directed to me as well. Let me say the majority of the posts in this thread were directed to v-tec. You added your opinion and I responded to it saying that is the same they said about Honda and Toyota. I then proceed to direct my comments to v-tec again. I do not see anything wrong with that and I do not believe anyone accused you of putting down Hyundai. It was v-tec that did that.

as for..

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

Edit: So you're saying that a Hyundai holds its value better than all other makes/models in its class?? Cuz that's a flat out lie.

Ask and you shall recieve...
here are a couple of screenshots for example, I selected a 2001 Santa Fe LX 4WD (fully loaded) and a 2001 Ford Escape XLT 4WD (with matched options) and here are the results...

For the Santa Fe:


For the Escape:


The 2001 Escpae with the matched options has slightly lower resale value across the boards and it did cost about $3000 more than the Santa Fe back in 2001. Therefore I would say anyone who bought the Santa Fe in 2001 over the Escape is ahead of the game by $3000.

Here are the resale values for a few years to compare.




As you can see, it would seem that the vehicle holds its value better than the leading competitor.

Since 2001 the price of the Santa Fe has gone up and the price of the Escpae has come done. Here is the price list of a 2004 LX compared to a 2005 Escape.


and the Escape...


The Escape still costs more. Go figure. So to me it looks like it holds it value better. Mind you this is only on the Santa Fe and may or may not be true on the other Hyundai models.
As for Trade in Value. Show me a mainstream vehicle that is produced that has a "Good Trade in Value" I do not think those exist. Trade-in's typically suck, they always have and always will on anything. True some dealers are better than others but you should never expect to be happy about any trade in value on anything.

So bottom line, to me the value is holding well and in most cases better than the others in its class.

TS out

[rumrunner88]

in no way are Hyuandais cheap ugly or slow, yhe thing you people dont get is that they are a sports car for cheeap, my frend drives a '03 tiburon, ive driven that thing and itsthe best car ive ever driven. it has no body roll at all the limited slip differential works like a dream. and hey even with an auto that thing moves.

[Twizted_3KGT]

That thing moves to a mid 16 second 1/4 mile, if you call that quick then thats your opinion, but thats about average for a Buick fullsize, compared to other sports cars in its class its at the bottom. The new Tibi does look sexy though i'll give it that, they just need a faster model.(rumrunner)

Well Ford is a whole different topic, they're worse than Hyundai IMO...I was thinking more along the lines of Toyota/Honda/even Chevy...which could be considered out of its class, i dont really know. But I agree with you that they're good cars, like I said reliable, affordable, best warranty...I would just never own one...other than a turbo Tibi if they ever make one.

[rumrunner88]

Test gear humming, we warmed up the race-car's slick tires and laid down the quickest 0-60-mph time we've ever recorded for a front-drive car at 5.7 sec. Granted, this Tiburon weighs some 473 lb less than the production version, but even with a clutch that we weren't operating properly, this was just the first of many surprises. Next up, we ran the production Tiburon GT V6 down the strip and it, too, made an impressive pass. Glancing at our records, its 7.0-sec time falls between those of the much-admired Acura RSX Type-S (6.7) and the oh-so-popular Toyota Celica GT-S at 7.3 sec.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...12_0207_shark/
it beets the best of the best in 0-60.

Since we'd previously been to Buttonwillow Raceway with a group of three heavy-hitting sports cars (Aug. '01), we had baseline lap times to compare the Tiburon cars against. From "slowest" to quickest, the lap times of our 1.1-mile course for a 250-hp Porsche Boxster S, a 333-hp BMW M3 coupe and a 385-hp Chevy Corvette Z06 were 1:01.62, 1:00.50, and 0:59.50, respectively. How would the Tiburon twins do?The $19,000 Tiburon GT V6 lapped just 1.5 seconds behind a $57,000 Porsche Boxster S. The racing Tiburon's lap times shamed a mighty Corvette Z06.
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...rk/index1.html

even beat a Z06 on the track. its not a drag car its a street shark.

[Twizted_3KGT]

7.0 sec 0-60 mph time is worse than a Pontiac G6, and the race Tiburon beat a stock Z06 by 1.7 seconds in the laps, not production. Okay so maybe it's not as slow as a Buick but it's still the slowest sport coupe out there (speaking of top models only). The GT-S may have a slower 0-60 but it comes back a second faster in the 1/4. I'm not trying to say it's a bad car, but it's definitely the slowest. I hope they do make a respectably fast Tiburon, it's got everything but the power.

[Chris V]

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

lol, what the hell?? why are you defending yourselves?? i'm 21, not a testosterone filled teenager racing from stoplight to stoplight, i race at the track only, dont come at me like that.

Then why care iof an economy car is slower than a race car/ On teh street, unless you use full throttle all the time, you never use al that power in ANY car. And from what iv'e seen even an Accent GS is more than adequately fast for daily driving. Only a "testosterone addle ttenage boy" or someone who still acts like one, WOULD care or insult a car based on that.

To be completely honest I dont care what you drive or its condition, I work in a shop and i've seen quite a few '00 Hyundai's falling apart, just personal experience.

And personal experience with the one we bought and numerous ones in the SCCA and owned by friends contradicts YOUR experience. So again, your point isn't a"fact" And using it, as you did, to insult a car shows you to be a closed minded little twit.

What happened to your first post in this thread??? "Actually, they are cars for people who really don't give a sh!t what other people think" What happened to that? now you give a sh!t?

I'm not a typical buyer. I've been on car forums for years long before owning a Hyujndai (I've owned over a hundred cars of almost all manufacturers over the last 27 years), and I've ALWAYS given a shit if closedminded little shits start insulting cars for retarded reasons. REGARDLESS of brand or type. I hate ignorance passing itself off as fact, and starting out by being insulting.

I said good value car and i havent seen many problems with them, it is what it is. I never put down Hyundai I just stated facts...cheap, slow, ugly IMO. You don't like it too bad.

"IMO" doesn't make it a "fact." THAT'S what got me going. Using opinion to be insulting is the mark of an ignorant fool, and i will continue to return that sentiment in kinds. Funny how people like you want to be able to insult things, but get all pissy if someone insults you in return, as though it's only ok for YOU to be the insulting one.

[twospirits]

That Motor Trend Article almost brought a tear to my eye. Never saw it before. Thanks for posting that rumrunner.

TS out

[mason_RsX]

Wow this is a really good thread...im learning alot of new stuff

Now Rumrunner88 I see motortrendsattempt in placing the Tib, but they ran the Rsx type S slow...C&D ran the Type S to 60 in 6.2 making it almost a full second faster than the tib to 60...If you want to compare it I would put it in the with Corolla Xrs which scoots to 60 in 7.1, or the Lancer Ralliart...BUT in my opinion the tib doesn't have enough to be in RSX territory...then again im partial to the rsx and defend my baby

Now, in terms of Hyundai itself I have alot of respect for the quality and effort they put into their cars, and how far they have come in stature in the car world...If I remember right they are the 7th biggest (Hyundai/Kia) car manufacturer in the world, and you dont get to be that high if your cars are terrible...and watch out for the 2006 Hyundai Sonata cause its been given amazing reviews, it looks sharp (and stolen from the Accord) and its gonna do very well in the family sedan market