metro fuel problem female needs help.

[shiza1]

My car is a 95 metro 1.3 fuel injection automatic and it was running just great and now it acts like it's not getting gas. If you put it in park it starts right up and idles great. You can give it gas and the engine will rev right up. You also can see gas going in the fuel injection bowl. When you put it in drive it acts like it's not getting gas. When it first started I would be at a stop sign or light and try to take off and it would bogg down and not want to move. It never dies it just hardly moves. If you let off the gas and very touch it it would pick up speed and be fine until you stop or happen to push on the gas too hard. I would at that point just ease up on the gas until it caught right and it would go. Now it's at a point that it won't hardy move. I tried to go around the block the other day and I didn't think it would make it. I can't even give it a little gas now. When you try to give it the gas it just acts like it bogging down until the pedal is to the floor. It won't move or anything. Could the fuel filter or fuel pump act like this? Someone told me it could be the filter, pump or converter plugged. There is good air coming out of the tail pipe with pressure. So, I don't think it's the converter. Please help.

[serenity]

Originally Posted by shiza1

My car is a 95 metro 1.3 fuel injection automatic and it was running just great and now it acts like it's not getting gas. If you put it in park it starts right up and idles great. You can give it gas and the engine will rev right up. You also can see gas going in the fuel injection bowl. When you put it in drive it acts like it's not getting gas. When it first started I would be at a stop sign or light and try to take off and it would bog down and not want to move. It never dies it just hardly moves. If you let off the gas and very touch it it would pick up speed and be fine until you stop or happen to push on the gas too hard. I would at that point just ease up on the gas until it caught right and it would go. Now it's at a point that it won't hardy move. I tried to go around the block the other day and I didn't think it would make it. I can't even give it a little gas now. When you try to give it the gas it just acts like it bogging down until the pedal is to the floor. It won't move or anything. Could the fuel filter or fuel pump act like this? Someone told me it could be the filter, pump or converter plugged. There is good air coming out of the tail pipe with pressure. So, I don't think it's the converter. Please help.

I have a 1992 geo metro convertible with simular problems. If it is like mine the problem is that your transmission is not shifting in to low gear(first gear)at take-off. I had the filter changed and new fluid put in and it still would not shift all the time. I also adjusted the tv-1 valve next to the throttle cable> I do not know if your 95 has this adjustment or not? Even with these fixes I still have to shift my auto trans mannualy some times untill it warms up and starts shifting again on its own. While other times it will start shifting as soon as I start it. I hope this helps. And if anyone has any more information that might help Please dont hesitate. Thanks

[shiza1]

I first thought that it might be the transmission. I checked the fluid and it is full. How would you decide rather it's the transmission or the fuel pump? This car was runing just great before this problem started. It really acts as if it's not getting gas. I tried shifting it in 2nd to see if that made a difference and it don't. I had smelt gas a couple times so I just thought it was the fuel pump. I have a ford that the transmission did do this and it revs in all gears. It doesn't make a difference rather it's in park or drive it still get gas and revs up. The metro doesn't rev accept in park. That's why I didn't think it was the transmission. The ford pulls out great and takes off great until it gets to about 15-20 miles and then it won't go any faster. It starts slowing down then. But if you stop it pulls out great again until it reached that speed again. The metro acts just as if it's not getting gas at all. You can push the pedal to the floor with little movement and then it does nothing. It doesn't over rev or anything. Wouldn't it over rev if it was the trans?

[serenity]

There is a possibllity that it is a fuel problem that cannot be ruled out completly. If however your car is not shifting in first as I suspect. Then it is trying to start out in second gear most likely. The three cylinder engine dosen't have a lot of power so the engine will not rev up. Its like trying to start out in thrid or forth gear on a standard transmission the engine will bogg down and lose power or stall completly. The only way the motor should rev up is if your transmission is slipping. Place the gear shift in to first and see what happens. If it is the transmission not shifting it should pull the car normal up to about 15 to 25 mph donot stay in first to long it is not good to to run it first for to long. If it is somthing else , like a fuel problem the car will still not run and that might narrow down your search for a problem, Good luck!

[shiza1]

Ok. I went out and put the car in first gear. It idles fine when I don't push on the gas. If you push on the gas it does really nothing. If you keep pushing the gas it finally goes to the floor. After going to the floor it starts to shut off and you will see the battery light and check engine light come on. When you let off the gas the lights go out and then it starts picking up the idling speed again and goes back to idling fine again. So I don't know.

[biff_sorenson]

Interesting.

Has anyone worked on it recently? Is it possible that a ground wire was knocked loose? You would be surprized what kind of problems will crop up from a simple ground wire.

Good luck.

[Crvett69]

i would suspect either your throttle position sensor is bad or your fuel pressure OR flow is to low. can sort of check flow yourslef if your carefull and have a fire extinguisher handy. remove return line where it goes onto metal tube at firewall (its the smaller of the 2 going to throttle body) place end of tube in a glass container and have someone start engine. should see a steady stream coming out of end of tube, if its just a little dribble or none at all then your filter is plugged or pump is bad. if flow is good then i would probably suspect the TPS. before removing hose loosen gas cap or pressure in tank can make gas run out of firewall tube before you start engine.

[shiza1]

Originally Posted by biff_sorenson

Interesting.

Has anyone worked on it recently? Is it possible that a ground wire was knocked loose? You would be surprized what kind of problems will crop up from a simple ground wire.

Good luck.

No one has worked on it. When I first got the car 3 mos ago I had the air filter and spark plugs and pvc value & oil changed. Since then nothing was done. I also had the spark plugs rechecked their fine. If you start the car in park you can't even tell there's a problem. So it's getting enough gas to idle.

[shiza1]

Originally Posted by Crvett69

i would suspect either your throttle position sensor is bad or your fuel pressure OR flow is to low. can sort of check flow yourslef if your carefull and have a fire extinguisher handy. remove return line where it goes onto metal tube at firewall (its the smaller of the 2 going to throttle body) place end of tube in a glass container and have someone start engine. should see a steady stream coming out of end of tube, if its just a little dribble or none at all then your filter is plugged or pump is bad. if flow is good then i would probably suspect the TPS. before removing hose loosen gas cap or pressure in tank can make gas run out of firewall tube before you start engine.

I will have someone do this for me. Probably this weekend. I don't know if this had anything to do with anything but right before all this happened before it got to messing up too bad when I was driving. I started the car one day and it was reving sooo high I thought it was going to blow up. The rev sound was funny sounding too. It did that for a couple minutes and quit. It done that twice. I just let it idle until it stopped and everyting was fine then. But this was in the begining before it started messing up while pushing the gas too much. It did it once again in between it messing up and never done the high rev again.

[biff_sorenson]

have you tried holding the pedal to the floor and slipping it into neutral or park?

If it revs up as soon as you do, then it sounds like it would be something to do with the tranny.

[shiza1]

Originally Posted by biff_sorenson

have you tried holding the pedal to the floor and slipping it into neutral or park?

If it revs up as soon as you do, then it sounds like it would be something to do with the tranny.

I had the guy next door look at my car. He did like you said and still no difference.

[shiza1]

[quote=Crvett69]i would suspect either your throttle position sensor is bad or your fuel pressure OR flow is to low. can sort of check flow yourslef if your carefull and have a fire extinguisher handy. remove return line where it goes onto metal tube at firewall (its the smaller of the 2 going to throttle body) place end of tube in a glass container and have someone start engine. should see a steady stream coming out of end of tube, if its just a little dribble or none at all then your filter is plugged or pump is bad. if flow is good then i would probably suspect the TPS. before removing hose loosen gas cap or pressure in tank can make gas run out of firewall tube before you start engine.[/QUO

I bought a fuel filter and he is going to try and change that soon. So that will be another step to try. He said that when he goes to change the filter he is going to check the gas pressure. I guess instead of doing it like you said he will do it from the fuel pump. Will that work the same way? He also looked at the converter and said that it's not plugged. So that's not the problem.

[Crvett69]

its better to check the return line at the firewall. i had one that had the correct fuel pressure at the fuel pump but the flow was to low. ruunning return line into container will check the pressure and flow at the same time

[shiza1]

I will tell him what you said and to check at firewall instead. Thanks.