Speaker's sound????

[BobChestnut]

I have two audiobahn 6x9's in a box in my pickup and i was messing around with the volume instide the box. I was wondering what a speaker's bass sounds like when there isn't enough space for them inside the box. Whats happeneing to me is that the speaker cone sounds like its rattling almost sounds like a car driving over washboard on a gravel road.

[sr20de4evr]

if there isn't enough airspace they won't have a good low end and they'll have a peaky response. If you hear mechanical rattling, scratching, anything like than then there's a good chance the speaker is blown.

[BobChestnut]

no its not blowen its the sound where it sounds like its distoring becasue it doesn't have enough power.

[sr20de4evr]

You mean it sounds like the amp is clipping? Well you'll only get that sound if the amp is actually clipping. If you're getting a rattling type sound at normal volume then the speaker is probably blown, but you can check the box for leaks because sometimes a leak can sound like that as well.

[BobChestnut]

I don't really know that much about car audio. What does clipping mean i can't say i've heard that befor. I can garentee that its not a mechanical sound. The spearkers are in great condition and in no ways blown. Its more of a sound distortion i've had it happen befor and fixxed it by adding more power. I was just wondering if ther box size also had any thing to do with the sound?

[ngsm13]

Here ya go:

Clipping:
1. The distortion that occurs when a power amplifier is overdriven. This can be seen visually on an oscilloscope, when the peaks of a waveform are flattened, or "clipped of," at the signal's ceiling.
2. In audio equipment, severe distortion caused by a signal whose peak level exceeds the capabilities of the device processing the signal. Results in the flattening of the signal peaks as if they had been "clipped" off.

Are these speakers being powered off HU power or with and amplifier?

NG

[UndercoverPunk]

If you are clipping those audiobahn 6X9's EXPECT the VCs to start unraveling, and rubbing on the motor. Trust me, that WILL happen.

[ngsm13]

Originally Posted by UndercoverPunk

If you are clipping those audiobahn 6X9's EXPECT the VCs to start unraveling, and rubbing on the motor. Trust me, that WILL happen.

It sure will, then you can use them are rear deck decorations ...until they fly out the window...

NG

[BobChestnut]

How long will it take for clipping to wreck a speaker? Are they fairley fragile or can they stand up to this for a long time? Is it a matter of minutes or will it take a couple of hours of listening time?


This is a little off subject. What is the difference between coaxil, triaxil, and component speakers?

[sr20de4evr]

depends on the amp, the music, the speakers, and how bad the clipping is

[BobChestnut]

Well i'm underpowering the speakers by mabe 5 watts the amp output its 180 perchannel and the speakers rms is 180 i dont' have the amp turned all the way up.
Just give me a ballpark guess i'm just wondering how bad clipping is for a speaker is at a small level.

[Diceman83]

Ok, first of all, audiopawns are totally overrated. If it says 180 watts rms, count on like 75, tops. If your amp is audiopawn too, then you probably won't have a problem because it's overrated too, but it sounds like it's another brand. Bottom line: get new speakers.

On that note: The difference between coaxial (includes two-way/biaxial, 3-way/triaxial and 4-way) speakers and components is fairly obvious. Components have the low frequency and high frequency speakers seperate, with a network of filters to divide up the signal to each one (so the tweeters don't try to play a 100 hz tone, which would kill it, or the woofers don't try to do really high frequency stuff, which sounds nasty). A coaxial speaker has the low and high freq speakers together, usually with the high frequency tweeter(s) mounted on the center pole. You can simply plug the output into it, so it's simpler. I would recommend getting a 6.5" speaker (either coaxial or components) rather than a 6x9, because round speakers sound better than oval ones.

I'm not gonna suggest brands, because I don't know too much about them. My pioneer rearfills sound ok, but what do I know? I've never much else.

[BobChestnut]

ok well you may think that audiobahn is overrated but after purchasing them and using them they sound better then a lot of the other "Crap" around here. The reason i say crap is because i don't have much money to spend of high quality speakers so i settle with what i can afford. Right now thats audiobahn and they perform better then the pioneer's that i have. I have an alpine amp powering them so i know they're taking 180 watts rms and they handle it quite well. If i wanted somone to insult me i coul dhave walked to a street corner and had them do it, but i came here for help.

[L|_|da]

Ive got audiobahn 6x9's and they sound pretty hot, there taking ~400W max, 200 Average and they still sound good.

[Diceman83]

Ok, that was a little on the negative side about the audiobahns. Sorry about that. I was feeling a bit like this guy at the time, for some reason:

Did I answer your other questions though?