If you could afford an F1 GTR Longtail, would you....

hurstg01 · #1 04-28-2005, 04:03 AM

convert it to be a F1 GT clone or to a road-going F1 GTR Longtail?

I would do both

, as there are only 3 real F1 GT's around but no, as far as i am aware, road-going F1 GTR Longtails..... I would choose one without a decent race history, then send it to the Mclaren factory to get modified to be a road-going F1 GTR, then perhaps onto the F1GT clone once i got bored of it.

What would you rather have? F1GT Clone? or Road Going longtail F1GTR?

jkbon · #2 04-28-2005, 05:48 AM

None, I will let it as a GTR to have fun on circuit ...

I'm not sure that a longtail is as practicable as another mclaren.

Mclaren240! · #3 04-28-2005, 01:08 PM

Why restrict youself if you have than kind money chanes are you can affored more than 1 i have places for at leas 4 longtails.... Hey im allowed to dream.

amanichen · #4 04-28-2005, 01:10 PM

I'd get ahold of the '97 GTR with the Lark Livery just because it's so wild looking, and probably sounds obnoxiously loud too =)

I'd leave everything on the car as is.

ArchangelGTR · #5 04-28-2005, 11:59 PM

If I ever had the chance to own the longtail.. I would have to have 2. The one with a strong racig pedigree (most wins or significant podium finishes), I would leave museum quality for vintage races. The other with lesser racing pedigree, I would convert to a street GTR.

In the modifications, if at all possible, would be a passenger seat. I know storage space is nill since the fuel pumps, filters, and other items take up those spaces. Maybe paint it papaya orange like the AM Racing car. And since I have access to wheel manufacturers, have a set of custom racing type street wheels made. (Hell if I'm going to have the money to own 2 plus insurance, I had better own the money to be able to produce one-off wheels.)

drewwtms · #6 05-02-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hurstg01

convert it to be a F1 GT clone or to a road-going F1 GTR Longtail?

I would do both

, as there are only 3 real F1 GT's around but no, as far as i am aware, road-going F1 GTR Longtails.....

That's a great idea! Seeing an F1 GTR on the road in "road trim" would be truly unique. It would be pricey to convert to road use and there's probably not a lot of places where you could register a racecar's VIN. But that would be so cool.

mini magic · #7 05-02-2005, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drewwtms

That's a great idea! Seeing an F1 GTR on the road in "road trim" would be truly unique. It would be pricey to convert to road use and there's probably not a lot of places where you could register a racecar's VIN. But that would be so cool.

There were rumors that 027R was street legal but only just. Aparently, the people who made it street legal did a pretty bad job. Whatever that means.

FortuneF1 · #8 11-01-2005, 03:35 AM

if i had an 97 f1 gtr, id drive it whether it were street legal or not...
you think an officer is gunna pull you over and be like 'hey, is this thing road legal?'

FortuneF1 · #9 11-01-2005, 03:42 AM

and as far as people picking out which longtails they want, you better hope you win the big lotto jackpot before me, because if i win it, im going to buy them all!

and after i own them all theyre all going to be repainted to their original liveries... all except 1, 22r, which will be resprayed in the 98 'davidoff' livery that is my sig, instead of the 97 'gulf/davidoff' livery. so thats 3 team bmw cars, 4 davidoff, 1 parabolica car, and the lark car, and thats all 9 of them... yep sounds like a good plan to me... now about that lotto

murraydeschot · #10 11-01-2005, 03:47 AM

Personally, if I had the money to buy a Longtail and convert it, I'd pump the money into a 'normal' F1 roadcar ... IMO the long-tail was an ugly emasculated effort that detracted from the purity and aesthetic beauty of Peter Steven's original design ... little wonder that only 3 road cars were built.

FortuneF1 · #11 11-01-2005, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by murraydeschot

Personally, if I had the money to buy a Longtail and convert it, I'd pump the money into a 'normal' F1 roadcar ... IMO the long-tail was an ugly emasculated effort that detracted from the purity and aesthetic beauty of Peter Steven's original design ... little wonder that only 3 road cars were built.

thats your opinion, but IMHO as well as gordon murray's, the 'longtail' f1 is by far the most aesthetically appealing of the f1's that were built, and they only made 3 because thats all that they were required to make according to the fia's regulations to make it legal for the 97 gtr to compete, not because it "was an ugly emasculated effort that detracted from the purity and aesthetic beauty of Peter Steven's original design"
the redesigned aesthetics of the 97 gtr's was a must in order for mclaren to remain competitive.

murraydeschot · #12 11-01-2005, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FortuneF1

the redesigned aesthetics of the 97 gtr's was a must in order for mclaren to remain competitive.

I'd call it redesigned aerodynamics ... in order for McLaren to remain competitive!

But wouldn't the World be a grey and bland place if we all agreed on everything.

FortuneF1 · #13 11-01-2005, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by murraydeschot

I'd call it redesigned aerodynamics ... in order for McLaren to remain competitive!

But wouldn't the World be a grey and bland place if we all agreed on everything.

aesthetics, aerodynamics, its pretty much the same...

haha no, not even close, but youre right and your definately not the only one who dislikes the longtail, i just think youre all crazy...

just kidding...
but IMO the 97 gtr is the best looking car ever...

Peloton25 · #14 11-01-2005, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FortuneF1

thats your opinion, but IMHO as well as gordon murray's, the 'longtail' f1 is by far the most aesthetically appealing of the f1's that were built, and they only made 3 because thats all that they were required to make according to the fia's regulations to make it legal for the 97 gtr to compete, not because it "was an ugly emasculated effort that detracted from the purity and aesthetic beauty of Peter Steven's original design"
the redesigned aesthetics of the 97 gtr's was a must in order for mclaren to remain competitive.

Two things:

Care to quote your source on Gordon calling the longtail the most aesthetically pleasing of the F1 designs? I can recall him being pleased with the design from the standpoint that 'with the longtail bodywork they had finally evolved the F1 into a true racer', but I don't ever recall him gushing over the design changes from a purely aesthetic point of view.

Also, they were only required to make one example per the rules. That's why there's only one Toyota GT-One road car, only one of each style of Nissan R390 GT1s, only one Lotus Elise GT1 road car, and so on... Some companies chose to make more than the required one - like AMG with their 25 CLK-GTRs. I doubt McLaren would have had reason to build the two extra F1 GTs if they had not found buyers for them.

>8^)
ER

hurstg01 · #15 11-01-2005, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Peloton25

Also, they were only required to make one example per the rules. That's why there's only one Toyota GT-One road car, only one of each style of Nissan R390 GT1s, only one Lotus Elise GT1 road car, and so on... Some companies chose to make more than the required one - like AMG with their 25 CLK-GTRs. I doubt McLaren would have had reason to build the two extra F1 GTs if they had not found buyers for them.

>8^)
ER

a good a valid point

; taking your last few words, i imagine then that there were no more buyers for the F1 GT otherwise Mclaren would have increased production like Mercedes did with the CLK-GTR....

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