Morning after pill as Abortion???

[pnoiSR20]

So wat do u guyz think about it? Personally i think that it is a form of abortion.

[KustmAce]

Abortion or no, I am very thankful for its availability. I know my girlfriend is too.

I dont believe in abortion. I think it is the same as murder!!!! As for the pill, It is good in certan cases. Such as a rape victom.. Other than that, it is wrong.

[drewh4386]

^listen to that woman!

[Flatrater]

If the "morning after pill" is abortion so is a condom or regular birth control pills.


For all you followers of the pope and the church sex is only for the sole reason of having children. That is why they are against abortion and birth control, We would have no need for condoms, pills,shots or abortion if you practiced what you were taught in church.

I am against abortion when it concerns my wife. I can care less what others do with their bodies because it doesn't concern me. If my kids grow up, move out they can get abortions as long as I don't have to pay for it or suffer from it. We have no right to force our will on others.

[RSX-S777]

Originally Posted by karmacae

I dont believe in abortion. I think it is the same as murder!!!! As for the pill, It is good in certan cases. Such as a rape victom.. Other than that, it is wrong.

Translation: murder (your definition, not mine) is ok in certain cases. Ridiculous statement. It's either wrong or it's not, you can't have it both ways.

Personally, I think the religious fanatics can have all the rape babies, incest babies, unwanted pregnancies etc. they would like. As for me, I cherish the opportunities provided to prevent and correct these mistakes for the good of the parents and the child. And mishap pregnancies aside, I will never be made to feel that sex devoid of the intention to simply reproduce is dirty and/or wrong. Sex is not a sin, it's a gift. Thank god for contraceptives, instead.

[Damien]

^Amen to that.

The thing is, the day after pill is more a form of birth control than abortion because sometimes ur not technically sure if a girl is pregnant or not. It's just the risk is extremely high.

So now just argue about contrception and see where u wind up.

[YogsVR4]

I don't think the morning after pill is an abortion.

I posed the question long ago for the forum members here who wish they were aborted. No takers so far.

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by karmacae

I dont believe in abortion. I think it is the same as murder!!!! As for the pill, It is good in certan cases. Such as a rape victom.. Other than that, it is wrong.

So if a young couple has sex and the condom breaks, would it be more ethical (I assume you are arguing on the basis of ethics) to take the EC pill and eliminate the possibility of pregnancy (like Damien said, there is no way of knowing if she is pregnant yet), or to not take any pill, find out she is pregnant, not have an abortion, and have two 16 year olds making a thousand dollars a month between them try and raise a baby?

What if the parents kick them both out?

Is it more acceptable to ruin two young lives that already exist, than to prevent the possibility of a third? Is it ok to create life long burdens and baggage for two kids who were unlucky enough to be in the 2% of condom breaks, but its not ok to take a pill which will most likely prevent pregnacy in the first place?

What if one of them is very stubborn and refuses to give up their child to adoption?

There is no financial burden like raising a child. And it becomes tenfold when both kids may make little more than minimum wage.

What if the girl becomes very ill, or even dies during birth?

Is the life of an established girl who simply was involved in an accident less valuable than a "life" that doesn't even exist yet? Like Damien said, morning after prevents pregnancy, it does not abort anything.

It is easy to say "down with abortion" or "morning after pills are immoral" but until you yourself are faced with a situation where a morning after pill is the difference between financial burden and mental anguish, and a feeling of "crisis averted", you can not speak on the issue fairly.

Its like asking the question, what would you do if someone wielding a gun burst into your house right now? Its easy to say "I'd kick his ass" or "Id run out the back door", but you don't know for sure. If you and your 16 or 17 girlfriend/boyfriend are playing it safe, using all necessary protection, and you are unlucky enough to be in that 2% where the condom breaks, can you honestly say "I am opposed to the EC pill and abortions, so despite the unspeakable burden this will force on my life, I will have this child?

[sivic02]

To me, the second the spermatid enters the egg, you have a baby. Anything done after that time is abortion. The morning after pill then would be an abortion. And abortion is murder, I dont care if it was a rape or what. If you dont want to raise the kid put it up for adoption. Its really easy to find especially if you do it before the kid is even born.

Basically I say do whatever it takes to stay protected during sex. Have the girl take the pill and have the guy put on a condom and still pull out. If you have a kid through that much precaution then damn, thats luck.

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

For all you followers of the pope and the church sex is only for the sole reason of having children.

Wrong. The Bible says that sex is a gift from God for the man and wife to satisfy each other. It even says that one of the roles of the wife is to sexually satisfy her husband in the bonds of marriage.

The idea of emergency contraception—or a morning-after pill—is based on a theory. Under this theory, if a woman has sexual intercourse and fears she may be pregnant, she can take large doses of birth control pills. If in fact the woman is pregnant when she takes these birth control pills, the high dosage could act to kill her preborn child—a living human being. The only "emergency" in this case is the woman's fear of being pregnant.

Here are some of the side effects:

nausea
vomiting
infertility
breast tenderness
ectopic pregnancy (can be life threatening)
blood clot formation

http://www.morningafterpill.org/mapinfo1.htm

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

If the "morning after pill" is abortion so is a condom or regular birth control pills.

Condoms and birth control pills don't DELETE a fertilized egg. They PREVENT conception.

For those who think it is the religious fanatics feel sex is just for making babies...if that were so...God would have made sex less fun. We could just swap ear wax with q tips or something.

[RSX-S777]

I have a question for someone with a more intimate knowledge of the Bible than I. I was under the impression that, according to the Bible, spilling one's seed without the intention of making a child was a sin. Is this accurate? Therefore casual sex, masturbation and the like are sinful. So, if true, how is contraception of any kind under any circumstances acceptable?

[Marc04]

Originally Posted by sivic02

To me, the second the spermatid enters the egg, you have a baby. Anything done after that time is abortion. The morning after pill then would be an abortion. And abortion is murder, I dont care if it was a rape or what. If you dont want to raise the kid put it up for adoption. Its really easy to find especially if you do it before the kid is even born.

Basically I say do whatever it takes to stay protected during sex. Have the girl take the pill and have the guy put on a condom and still pull out. If you have a kid through that much precaution then damn, thats luck.

Do you really think that a woman who was raped would want a child from that? I can't speak for the women on the page; however, i can't see any woman who was raped say "Oh, I just hope I’m going to have a child."

I don't think abortion should be illegal. I don't. It should be a last resort for people. But to just not have it, that’s a bad idea. Because to think that making it illegal is going to stop it, is well, stupid. It will still occur only now it will be in back allies

[talonsrock]

Abortion is definetley wrong. Everybody is aware that sex could lead to pregnancy. To be like "Crap the condom broke pass me some morning after pills" is just plain irresponsible. It's not fair to kill a baby because you had bad judgement.
But, I do think there is an exception for rape victims. In these cases, since both people didn't consent then both weren't willing to accept the consequences.